google srteet views after the "big freeze"

Ouch, some of the neighbors' CIDPs look much better.
I love the metal gates and walled yards.

My computer's bombing out...

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That's all the species anyone who loves palms would probably want anyway.
Me especially.

Barb

Barb here is a pic of a place that has winters very much like my place in AZ (my place would normally be warmer in the winter)
I think I'm a half zone warmer. 😉

All these palms froze back that winter also, this is later that summer.
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Sad that they would've been burnt.
Such a beautiful job landscaping.

Curious what would've bent palm trunks to such a degree. Wind maybe?

Great that your place is 1/2 zone warmer.
Just think of what you'll be able to grow...10 foot tall Century Agaves are probably tops on your list.
But you're gonna have to "up" your palms list. 😆

Barb

Curious what would've bent palm trunks to such a degree. Wind maybe?

Just think of what you'll be able to grow...10 foot tall Century Agaves are probably tops on your list.

Barb

The palms are grown that way (sold). They take like a 10 tall palm, dig it up and than replant it at an angle,
wait and than replant them again, and so makes the bend(s). Robusta's always try and grow straight up.
I think they give them a bend too give a more tropical look. 😐

You know I will try and plant the biggest agave I can grow. 8)

palms are grown that way (sold). They take like a 10 tall palm, dig it up and than replant it at an angle,
wait and than replant them again, and so makes the bend(s).

That's sure labor-intensive.
But they probably get extra $.

Barb

palms are grown that way (sold). They take like a 10 tall palm, dig it up and than replant it at an angle,
wait and than replant them again, and so makes the bend(s).

That's sure labor-intensive.
But they probably get extra $.

Barb

That's mainly if they want a double kink, most of the time the landscapers plant the palm at a 45deg angel and brace it until the roots grow in.
I wish I would have taken pics, maybe I have a pic from Yuma with the palms braced. I thought it looked dump when I first seen it,
but now you see them doing it all over the place. I guess anything to make the landscaping different than the neighbors. 😆

Not a street view but a link that shows cactus in Mexico froze in habitat.
https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/86847138

Ugh...
photo date was Mar 2013, obviously a real cold spell last winter.
Not a lot of live ones around there.

Barb

I remember a lot of Az. guys on another forum posting impressive list of dead plants last yr. I think the cold front was wide spread. Hate to see older native cacti getting hit though.

Ugh...
photo date was Mar 2013, obviously a real cold spell last winter.
Not a lot of live ones around there.

Barb

I don't think it was that cold that far south in Mexico last winter, I believe that damage was done from the 2011 winter.
Some places in Mexico seen temps as low as -10f or so I seen on google weather temps that year (very rare there) zone 10.

A -10F in zone 10? Holy Ice Cubes! 😯

That must've been a one-in-100-years event then!

Barb

A -10F in zone 10? Holy Ice Cubes! 😯

That must've been a one-in-100-years event then!

Barb

I think your right, must of been for that kind of damage to accrue on native plants.

Of course this was only from my observation from what I seen that morning when watching the weather on Google earth,
or could have been from Wunderground.
-10F Bisbee AZ, and -10F all the way down to Chihuahua MX.

-10F Bisbee AZ, and -10F all the way down to Chihuahua MX.

And that lake would normally have moderated cold temperatures too.
Incredible temperatures. 😯
Bet the residents were thinking Ice Age cometh.

So tough for native plants to recover in a harsh environment.

More proof that the 2011 big freeze was not normal? 100 year freeze or longer, I hope!
organ pipe cactus many, many dead (probably thousands) from cold spell. Never recover in our life time.
Look at the Google-Maps pics around the big reservoir just east of Nacozari de Garcia, MX
Any cactus before 2011 looks green and fine, after 2011 skeletons or almost completely dead.

2008, cactus look healthy
https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/37366929

See the dead cactus on the right of the power poles, after 2011 (same cactus as above)
https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/60225892

Looks around and you will see more of the same. This was environmentally devastating,
but the news and science don't seem to care. I wonder how many other native plants died.
OK...I will try not to beat this dead horse any more. 😆

Cool that you discovered the before/after photos, Aaron.
And the cactus could've been 100 years old too.
No saguaros around there either.

Yeah, sad indeed.
Looks like deciduous shrubs are destined to be the only plants that survive 100 year cold records.

Barb