Poland: I lost all my palms in the ground

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:05 pm

Hi, it's very sad but I've lost All my palms that I had in the ground.
Trachycarpus Fortunei, Takil and Naini Tal.
Not by cold temperatures (max -24C) - they just rotten...
I tried to plant them on the top of small "mini hills" - but I see now it was not good enough.
My ground is in 90% pure clay. It keeps much water on my backyard. I realize now that if I want to keep some palms & yuccas in the ground I have to solve my water-caly problem first.

My palms:

and the water level in my ground - in last week.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Oh, Godfyd, I am so sorry for your loss.

Clay is horrible for palms and yuccas.

I feel your loss.
Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:43 pm

That sucks.

Find some gravel, stone, or broken concrete build a big mound and I bet you will have much better luck.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:12 pm

sorry about your palms. It appears you have a very high water table? If so you'll need to create a taller mound.

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:32 pm

I am sorry for your losses it's really horrible.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:04 pm

Godfryd, this is sad news. Not to give you false hope, but the one thing I would suggest is to at least try cutting the palms down to the trunk, and see if any growth progresses. You should see some shots on the EPS forum of T. fortunei after this past winter in Holland.

JackLord · Post by **JackLord** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:42 am

That is a lot of water. My soil is dominated by clay and I live in a small valley formed by a creek. So it is very wet as well, but not like yours.

I would do what DesertZone recommends. Also, I sometimes dig the hole for a plant and then dig another hole at the bottom and fill it with gravel. This creates a drain of sorts.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:36 am

You may want to lift them and check the roots...cut off dead material and pot up with root stimulator.

If the roots are dead you will see it up top last.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:12 am

Godfryd, sorry man for the things have happened. I would you suggest following Jim's way finding if the plants are goners. And keep exoting anyway!

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:11 am

One of my potted Chamaerops humilis strted to bloom. It's very first time to me to see that process - so I have some questions:
1. Is it male or female form?
2. What to do with it? Nothing? wait and see? Collect?

Can you help me?

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:04 pm

Looks like female inflorescence. You need male pollen for successful pollination. Sometimes, but very rare, C. humilis develop hermaphroditic flowers.
My C. humilis v. cerifera also looks like female.

Article about C. humilis pollination
http://personal.us.es/maliani/publicaci ... ncipes.pdf

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Thank you Henoh!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:18 am

Did any of your palms come back?

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:20 pm

Unfortunately not. I stopped buying new palms, I started to dry my backyard. First I have to do that and then I can think about new plants.

Yesterday I finished to make a outline for a little water-magazine

I left a miniature Island - and my kids love it

They want there a mini sand-beach

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:12 am

Good luck

My Bulgarian Trachy finally recovered-I will try and get a pic

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:09 am

So sorry about the loss of your palms...UGH!

Corrosion · Post by **Corrosion** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:43 am

Man, that suxx but I know how you feel, I lost some stuff this winter aswell.. Get some decent soil and a raised bed would be a good idead. My trachy came just trough its second winter without no problems, also waggy from its first winter. Trachy scares me because its gets bigger quite fast and I have to make bigger cover every year

But I believe proper winter protection method will do the trick, with cover, x.mas lights etc, Jim and others have shown some style for years

Anyway hang on and dont give up.

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:34 am

No palm in the ground yet but this time but I'd like to show you my frontyard - picture taken today.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:14 am

Godfryd, your house and plants nearby remind me a fairy tale of Charles Perraultю Great!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:50 am

Very nice! They look healthy. Hope you have a milder winter.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:37 pm

What lovely healthy plants, Godfryd.
And there's a beauty in the front left of photo! Very nice.

Since you have such a high water table/clay, would it be convenient for you to have palms only in big pots?
Then you can take them indoors during winter.

The bananas look very very good!

Barb

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