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W. robusta
Lowes had these on sale for less than $20, (With that price I can experiment with one outside)
These were marked as robusta, is there an easy way to verify this as compared to hybrids,etc?
Petiole bases are green which would = filifera? Then again , this one may have to mature a bit before a positive ID.
These were marked as robusta, is there an easy way to verify this as compared to hybrids,etc?
Petiole bases are green which would = filifera? Then again , this one may have to mature a bit before a positive ID.
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Robusta?
Looks like a W. robusta to me. I don`t see the tell tale signs of the cotton threads from the palm leafs for W. filifera . What type of cactus are you growing under it?
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Thanks for your answer!
The cactus is an unamed & spineless opuntia I picked up locally, I think it's the "nopal" variant?
It grows fast in the summer, Just stuck those pads in 2 days ago and by the end of the summer they should be 1-2' tall & branching. Hardiness seems to be to about 15F if fully exposed.
(I have some extra pads if you want to try some)
The cactus is an unamed & spineless opuntia I picked up locally, I think it's the "nopal" variant?
It grows fast in the summer, Just stuck those pads in 2 days ago and by the end of the summer they should be 1-2' tall & branching. Hardiness seems to be to about 15F if fully exposed.
(I have some extra pads if you want to try some)
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Lowes Salina at 3035 So. 9th,
( From 70 )
South on 135,
Exit at Schilling Rd,
Take a Left, about 2 blocks on your right.
They had a about a dozen of these left earlier this week at $18.97, I think there is still one Triangle left on the tropical foliage shelf inside too.
Good Luck, hope you snag one !
( From 70 )
South on 135,
Exit at Schilling Rd,
Take a Left, about 2 blocks on your right.
They had a about a dozen of these left earlier this week at $18.97, I think there is still one Triangle left on the tropical foliage shelf inside too.
Good Luck, hope you snag one !
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Re cactus pads
Knnn I have some cactus already. My wife has put the brakes on my obsession. No more plants until next year good thing because I would grow us out of house and home LOL. Thanks for the offer. Again I`m guessing from looking at your Washy that it is W.robusta as nurseries grow these over W. filifera for faster speed of growth.
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W. robusta
W. robusta fronds are also generally more rigid than W. filifera fronds; filifera fronds are usu. quite flexible. That puppy is a robusta, probably a pure breed one. My robustas' petioles are largely green as well so that is probably not the best indicator. Plus mine get cotton threads, so that does not necessarily mean filifera either. Red petioles and no fibers probably = robusta.
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The bases of the petioles are starting to take on a reddish hue now with some sun & warmth. I would say everyone's thought of Robusta would be correct. And Thanks for your Help!
Seems to be starting to push it's new spear, These must be tough palms if the tranplant didn't bother it.
Also this is my first experience with Washingtonias, I have some filifera germinating but it is going to be awhile before I can do a comparision
Seems to be starting to push it's new spear, These must be tough palms if the tranplant didn't bother it.
Also this is my first experience with Washingtonias, I have some filifera germinating but it is going to be awhile before I can do a comparision
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Cotton threads W. filifera vs W.robusta
W. filifera will put out more cotton threads than W.robusta is what I meant in my previous post.
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W.robusta
Definately looks like Robusta to me. I saw a bunch of crated ones at Costco last week. They were asking $240 for them. I thought that was a bit pricey for Robusta since they are hardy here. I have a a good size one in the ground for a couple of years now and it's oing well. However over the past 20 years I've lost dozens of them to Old Man Winter. Make sure to wrap it good when the cold comes. I see a Cycas revoluta stump to the left of your palm. Was it out through last Winter. That palm will grow fast in your Summer heat. Cheers, Joe
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C.revoluta
The cycas went in around mid -March, It started with a nice 5 leave spread.
Went through a couple freezes but seemed to be recovering with only 1 burnt frond.
After a couple hail storms with 1" hail, Well...it was a sad sight. Seems to be pushing at least 1 new frond now.
The CIDP seedling on the right was shredded by the local wild cat population, So it is back in a pot recovering, put some Coontie's in it's place and bought a big roll of chicken wire.
Last year it was a flock of wild turkeys..................
Went through a couple freezes but seemed to be recovering with only 1 burnt frond.
After a couple hail storms with 1" hail, Well...it was a sad sight. Seems to be pushing at least 1 new frond now.
The CIDP seedling on the right was shredded by the local wild cat population, So it is back in a pot recovering, put some Coontie's in it's place and bought a big roll of chicken wire.
Last year it was a flock of wild turkeys..................
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Update....
After 3-4 weeks of warm temps starting to take off....
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End of season picture....
Just a picture to show growth this season,
Hopefully I will be able to start a new thread this Spring about how well it did thru the Winter
Hopefully I will be able to start a new thread this Spring about how well it did thru the Winter
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Here's another.
Here's a Washingtonia robusta I planted this summer. Very few make it beyond a few years here without some sort of protection. I'll have a canopy over it through the winter months.
Cheers, Barrie.
Cheers, Barrie.
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It looks happy where it's at Hope all goes well this Winter for it.
Besides the shelter do you use any supplemental heat?
(This weekend's project is to build a shelter around mine. Not sure whether I should count on a small space heater or X-mas lights, or maybe both)
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Besides the shelter do you use any supplemental heat?
(This weekend's project is to build a shelter around mine. Not sure whether I should count on a small space heater or X-mas lights, or maybe both)
~ Steve
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Nice palm I hope it lives many years for you
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Winter Home
Finished up the Winter home for this one,
Our first freeze is usually in the middle of October. Today was sunny and 97F......No complaints tho
Framing,
Back,
Front,
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Our first freeze is usually in the middle of October. Today was sunny and 97F......No complaints tho
Framing,
Back,
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Steve that looks great.I was wondering what you will be using besides the large rocks to warm it during the winter? I would be very interested to see how well everything does.
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That enclosure is amazing. What are the sides made of? Is it foam insulation?
I hope to plant out some of my robustas next year. My temps are OK for them but it is the rain.
Barrie,
What do you use for a winter cover? Do you have a pic of it. I would be cuious to see it.
How's the plant business going? I was with Dan fishing last weekend and he told me the muni was hassling you. Why don't they go after all home businesses then. What a joke.
Have you got any good sized sabal minors or r. hystix?
I hope to plant out some of my robustas next year. My temps are OK for them but it is the rain.
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What do you use for a winter cover? Do you have a pic of it. I would be cuious to see it.
How's the plant business going? I was with Dan fishing last weekend and he told me the muni was hassling you. Why don't they go after all home businesses then. What a joke.
Have you got any good sized sabal minors or r. hystix?
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Thanks for the Comments!
Most of this is just recycled materials, Have some great neighbors who have been sending
over old windows, framing and plywood from their remodeling jobs. Stricly low budget, but I
do like posting to show how some of these things can be put back into service
The sides are 7/16 OSB board painted white inside to help with the light levels, ( After
checking it today it should be fine), There is some fiberglass insulation at the ground seal
and in the corners. Seems somewhat air tight when sealed so I am hoping to only have to use
a small electric space heater.
Already planning the un-covering party for next May, ( Going to need at least 6 people to lift
and move this thing
~ Steve
over old windows, framing and plywood from their remodeling jobs. Stricly low budget, but I
do like posting to show how some of these things can be put back into service
The sides are 7/16 OSB board painted white inside to help with the light levels, ( After
checking it today it should be fine), There is some fiberglass insulation at the ground seal
and in the corners. Seems somewhat air tight when sealed so I am hoping to only have to use
a small electric space heater.
Already planning the un-covering party for next May, ( Going to need at least 6 people to lift
and move this thing
~ Steve
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Winter cover
Wes,
I plan on a PVC built structure with a 6 mil UV cover. Open on the sides most times and dropped down during a cold snap. Anything below about -7 Celcius and I'll slide in a portable halogen light. It should emit enough heat to do the job. It's light weight, comes apart in minutes, it's easy to construct, and can be added to as the palm grows taller.
The local municipality isn't giving me grief, it's the RDN (Regional District of Nanaimo). They act only on complaints, so someone decided they'd do there civic duty and report me for investigation. So now I'm on their books and haven't heard much lately from them.
"Good sized" Sabal and R. hystrix are nearly impossible to come by around here. Even if I could bring them in, I'd be tying up a ton of dough and waiting many years for interested parties to purchase them. So long story short, no. Most people don't get beyond Trachycarpus here, maybe the odd Chamaerops or so.
Catch any good fish? Cheers, Barrie.
I plan on a PVC built structure with a 6 mil UV cover. Open on the sides most times and dropped down during a cold snap. Anything below about -7 Celcius and I'll slide in a portable halogen light. It should emit enough heat to do the job. It's light weight, comes apart in minutes, it's easy to construct, and can be added to as the palm grows taller.
The local municipality isn't giving me grief, it's the RDN (Regional District of Nanaimo). They act only on complaints, so someone decided they'd do there civic duty and report me for investigation. So now I'm on their books and haven't heard much lately from them.
"Good sized" Sabal and R. hystrix are nearly impossible to come by around here. Even if I could bring them in, I'd be tying up a ton of dough and waiting many years for interested parties to purchase them. So long story short, no. Most people don't get beyond Trachycarpus here, maybe the odd Chamaerops or so.
Catch any good fish? Cheers, Barrie.
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Dam...that looks nice I have lived in homes worse than that
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One small trout. I am more of a salt water salmon fisherman. This trout was the size of the herring I use as bait.
I bought a good sized needle from Broadway nurseries in Ontario.
I think I am going to order some more from them next year. They also had 7 gallon s. minors and I am for sure getting some of those if no one here gets any in.
I bought a good sized needle from Broadway nurseries in Ontario.
I think I am going to order some more from them next year. They also had 7 gallon s. minors and I am for sure getting some of those if no one here gets any in.
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Good to here Wes
I've never heard of "Broadway". I maybe interested in a few if you plan on another order in the future. How are they to deal with?
Cheers, Barrie.
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They were great. I got my palm when he said I would and the palm was flawless when I got it.
I will let you know when I send in an order next spring, around February.
I will let you know when I send in an order next spring, around February.
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Winter Protection
Seems to have worked out just fine. Just took a day to construct and seems well worth it
Opening a new spear today........... Hopefully I can take this down in 1 more month.
Also have a Cycas taitungensis X revoluta in there that seems to be doing well too
[EDIT]
First day of Spring 3-21-07
A high of 80*F today and lows in the 40's forecast for the next two weeks, decided to take the shelter off and let it get back to growing
The Opuntia in there rotted from too much moisture this Winter, The Cycas was OK ,but had developed a real shallow root system from all the frequent watering ( Potted it back up )
Opening a new spear today........... Hopefully I can take this down in 1 more month.
Also have a Cycas taitungensis X revoluta in there that seems to be doing well too
[EDIT]
First day of Spring 3-21-07
A high of 80*F today and lows in the 40's forecast for the next two weeks, decided to take the shelter off and let it get back to growing
The Opuntia in there rotted from too much moisture this Winter, The Cycas was OK ,but had developed a real shallow root system from all the frequent watering ( Potted it back up )
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What has happemed since...........
and as time goes on......
This was April, ( 2 nights of 18F )
After 12"+ of rain and flooding in May a case of crown rot had set in.......
Currently, after a bit of minor surgery it is off and growing again
This was April, ( 2 nights of 18F )
After 12"+ of rain and flooding in May a case of crown rot had set in.......
Currently, after a bit of minor surgery it is off and growing again
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Heat
Used a little 750W heater on it's lowest setting, kept it about 32-34F. In the cold snaps we had, it dipped down to 20 - 22F a few times.
I like using the enclosure because it does away with hunidity/rot problems ( common when things are wrapped). Haven't tried just using X-mas lights yet.
Steve
I like using the enclosure because it does away with hunidity/rot problems ( common when things are wrapped). Haven't tried just using X-mas lights yet.
Steve
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Thanks Ben !
With everthing this one has been through I'm amazed it's still hanging in there
Steve
With everthing this one has been through I'm amazed it's still hanging in there
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It Survived!
Not a great year growth wise but it's time to try and get it through Winter #2
This year just a simple wooden frame with plastic covering.
( With a small table saw this went together pretty fast ~ using 2"X3" framing)
The top and back wall are layered on the outside and inside.
( an electric stapler would be real nice to have ........... )
An old storm window on the front, will add some heat and keep my fingers crossed
This year just a simple wooden frame with plastic covering.
( With a small table saw this went together pretty fast ~ using 2"X3" framing)
The top and back wall are layered on the outside and inside.
( an electric stapler would be real nice to have ........... )
An old storm window on the front, will add some heat and keep my fingers crossed
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Allen, The front window will slide open allowing me access, still need to get the bottom sealed and the seams taped.
We are expecting storms today, be a good test to see if the plastic will hold up to the wind
Steve
We are expecting storms today, be a good test to see if the plastic will hold up to the wind
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