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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 am
by lucky1
Good you're keeping a close eye on it Scott.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:54 pm
by TimMAz6
awesome photo of they Cycad barb!

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:44 pm
by TimMAz6
Got some new babies. I've always wanted to try Loquat outside here in Massachusetts...........here's my chance. I just received 3 seedlings via a trade.

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:30 pm
by lucky1
Good addition Tim.

How long until this --> http://gomexico.about.com/od/fooddrink/ ... speros.htm

:wink:

Barb

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:42 pm
by TimMAz6
Hi Barb,

picking fruit of a loquat won't happen here until I go to a supermarket! :lol:

I'll keep you posted on the loquat. There is a 8 foot tall Loquat at my parents place in Rockville, Maryland (zone 7a). Pretty far north.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:24 pm
by lucky1
8 foot tall Loquat at my parents place
Depending on the gender of yours, maybe you'll need its pollen?

A few years away yet...or are you going to leave it out next winter and see at what temp it dies?
:bootyshake: :angry1:

Barb :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:05 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Tim, I remember someone on the HPS board saying that his loquat tree survived (0 F -18 C ???) with no problems last winter. I think he is in Tennessee. I've also got a few seedlings that I will eventually be trying outside.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:54 am
by TimMAz6
What I've read is that Loquat is surprisingly hardy. I'm not aware what the leathal temperature is.........we'll find out!

Tim

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:17 am
by igor.glukhovtsev
Of course it would growing but not fruiting in your climate.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:26 am
by canadianplant
Never know Igor. A hot wall, a lucky microclimate.... Look at what tim grows now! Remember this is the dude who has eucalyptus that didnt seem to die this year!

P. dactylifera seedling

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:00 am
by lucky1
Started 3 months ago from "Deglet Noor" date seeds.

This one is almost 3 times as tall as its siblings.

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Can almost HEAR this grow. :shock:

Barb

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:00 pm
by TimMAz6
Why is this date palm seedling leaf so much taller than the others??

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm
by lucky1
Wish I knew Tim.

I've never seen a palm seedling grow like this.

From the look of all the other P.dacty's, it's definitely an anomaly.
Or they're all slow.

Definitely a keeper... :D

Barb

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:14 pm
by canadianplant
Seedling variation is awsome.

Bow before nature!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:47 pm
by lucky1
One Brahea nitida (B. calcarea) has popped after 4 weeks.
Lousy pic but there is a shoot down into the soil.

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Barb

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:21 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Great work, Barb. I would think that with Brahea being a desert palm, they would have a fairly long initial root.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11 am
by TimMAz6
nice Barb! You sure have a big collection of palms..............which palm is next on your list?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:32 pm
by lucky1
Thanks for the reminder, Cameron, that it's a desert palm...gotta give it what it needs.
When it warms up :lol:
which palm is next on your list?
Depends on what I manage to murder, Tim... :lol:

Still waiting for the J. chilensis to pop,
oh, and the Butia eriospatha x Syagrus F1 too.

Might have to put those in my will. :?

Barb

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:53 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Earlier in the winter, I put some of my six varieties of Euc seeds in containers, and left them outside to try outdoor stratification/germination. The lowest temp recorded on my deck this winter was -17 C, so it was probably a little warmer in the yard. The seeds were outside for months, and likely saw numerous lows of -14 C or lower. Today, I noticed germination of at least three species :D Here is E. crenulata:
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:39 am
by canadianplant
Nice!

Mine were cold stratfied in the fridge ( a bit too cold to do it with Eucs here). THey germinated within 3 days, after 6 weeks in the fridge. 5 have made it!

You manage to get those Calla seeds to sprout? 2/5 popped so far for me!

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:20 am
by TimMAz6
Nice germ'n with the Eucs............three types didn't germ for me.....I dry stratified the seed in the frig for 1 month then kept them in my unheated garage for another month then planted them in moist soil and placed them back in the frig for 2 weeks. Then I took them to work on my window sill. Only E. perriniana from Ducks Hole, Tasmania germed well and one Mt. Ginnii Act 1,740 m germed. It's been at least 3 weeks now. Should I place them back in the frig??

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:49 am
by canadianplant
I wet stratified mine, in the germination pot, with a baggie over it. Id personally wait a few more weeks (maybe the end of the summer) to re stratify them. Never know.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:11 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Canadianplant, I haven't had a chance to sow the calla seeds yet! It's good to hear that you did have some Euc germination too.

Tim, I have noticed that the hardier varieties seem to need more stratification, and take longer to germinate. E. crenulata is one of the more tender species that I have (-15 C?), and it germinated the fastest. E. p. ssp. debeuzevillei, which is hardier, is only beginning to germinate now.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:25 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
I checked all of the seeds yesterday, and it turns out that there has been germination on all Euc species! :D I'll post some pics once everything grows a bit more.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:46 pm
by TimMAz6
Good job Cameron! I'll be planting the seeds you sent me this weekend..........except for the takil seed which I started upon receipt. I sowed my first Yucca seeds tonight too.....MNPalms hybrid between Y. thompsoniana and my filata 'big mama' pollen.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:31 am
by canadianplant
None of my Yucca seeds made it :( Thanks Tim (that isnt sarcastic FYI :D )

The bottlebrush seeds sprouted fast. Same with the Euc.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:43 am
by TimMAz6
Yucca seeds didn't germ? If you need more let me know.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:17 am
by canadianplant
I told you I had horrible luck with them :D If Im brave enough in the future ill let you know. Thanks :D

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:58 pm
by lucky1
3 or 4 of Tim's Big Momma yucca seeds germinated for me.

Mice (or something low and crawly) ate the other ones off at the ground
:evil:

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:40 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Tim, did the T. takil seed germinate for you yet?

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:42 am
by TimMAz6
If anyone needs more yucca seed give me a PM. Got more :)

Cameron, no leaf yet on the takil seed.........I buried the seed in one of my Loquat pots. I'll keep you posted.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:57 pm
by seedscanada
Tim, can you show us pictures of the different 'filata' parent plants... there were at least two different seeds.. Big Mama and another one too.
How are these seed source plants looking in their prime? Pics please with the names you've given 'em.
Cheers! nd tthanks
Adam

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 am
by TimMAz6
Hi Adam

Big Mama is at this link

http://www.palmsnorth.com/forum/viewtop ... 83&start=0

I'll post photos of others later.......using iphone now

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:39 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Updated pic of the E. crenulata seedlings:
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:27 am
by TimMAz6
Cameron, that's a lot of seedlings!!! :shock:

Do a mass planting.........hopefully one will be clearly hardier than others.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:15 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
That's the plan!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:12 pm
by TimMAz6
I've never tried E. crenulata.......how hardy? I may have some seeds germing now......sounds familiar.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:26 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Tim, I think I must have sent you some seeds with the other types. If I recall correctly, it's hardy down to somewhere around -15 C (5 F). The hardiness ratings given to me by the nursery were for small, sapling-size trees, which are tested in open fields.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:46 am
by TimMAz6
Hi Cameron,

The Euc seeds I'm germ'n this season are from Cincy Frank. The Euc seeds I received from you last season didn't germ for me. :cry:

Seedlings hardy to -15C sound good. Hopefully they will be hardier with age.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:14 pm
by TimMAz6
Hey Cameron,

I took out the Sabal minor 'McCurtain' seeds last night to germ..............funny thing is 3 already germed in the plastic baggie!!! Very cool. You didn't tell me you pre-germed the seeds. :wink:

I hope they are OK still.......will find out soon.

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