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Post by hardyjim » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:03 am

Several 70(F)+ days sent the temps inside of my place up to 80(F) and woke somebody up. :shock:

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Today 11-11-10


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Post by canadianplant » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:52 am

Grats jim!! LOL is that your Alocasia??
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Post by hardyjim » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:03 am

canadianplant wrote:Grats jim!! LOL is that your Alocasia??








Colocasia "Thai giant",the one to the left (better seen in the second pic)is Alocasia "Borneo giant."
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:34 am

Quick, throw a garbage bag over it :lol: :lol:
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Post by canadianplant » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:35 am

Mine are doing well indoors too. They arent getting as much sun as yours, but are slowly growing, and not going into dormancy. They took a bit to long to break here, so I want to keep em going all winter ( 2ALocasia odora, and 2 Taro colocasia). The musella seedling and Basjoo i have inside are all dong well too.

Do those species put out offshoots or pups ( you know what i mean:P)
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Post by hardyjim » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:27 pm

canadianplant wrote:Mine are doing well indoors too. They arent getting as much sun as yours, but are slowly growing, and not going into dormancy. They took a bit to long to break here, so I want to keep em going all winter ( 2ALocasia odora, and 2 Taro colocasia). The musella seedling and Basjoo i have inside are all dong well too.

Do those species put out offshoots or pups ( you know what i mean:P)


Not this one.


Also since my home stays cool during the winter this one will shut down
before it grows to much-I want it to save it's energy for next year :twisted:

Nice to know it is alive though -you never know,these things put out
tremendous energy to grow like they do and digging them up is a major stress!
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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:54 pm

Nice to see Jim. I`m going to have to order some Alocasia seeds for a winter project. They should be a half decent size by April 2011.

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Post by canadianplant » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:10 pm

Hey jim, i have a slightly unrelated question for you if you dont mind....

I was looking up some info on some seeds i ordered (musa balbisiana), and I keep getting some hits on "Musa Balbisiana "Thai black". Are Thai black and Balbisiana the same plant, or is the TB a var?
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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:42 am

Jim,
that is indeed a good sign. You'll be well ahead next Spring.
It has been warm here, too (e.g., today's low was about 57 oF!) and one of my "dead" Colocasia is putting out a leaf now outdoors. Musella has a new leaf, and all Musa basjoo have sent spears up a few inches. I'll get a light frost this weekend, but no really cold weather in the forecast. --Erik

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Post by BILL MA » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:06 am

That's good stuff Jim! Good thing your house stays cool or you won't get it out of there :lol:

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Post by canadianplant » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:19 am

Dispite the few frosts weve had here, my passiflora is still growing, and alive. They cyperus finally got knocked down.... That bed is one hell of a microclimate!!!!
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Post by hardyjim » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:02 am

canadianplant wrote:Hey jim, i have a slightly unrelated question for you if you dont mind....

I was looking up some info on some seeds i ordered (musa balbisiana), and I keep getting some hits on "Musa Balbisiana "Thai black". Are Thai black and Balbisiana the same plant, or is the TB a var?


JESSE-

I guess the short answer is no but I will go with not necessarily Thai Black- but it could be-
because that's more helpful.




BILL-

It's a good thing it doesn't stay 80f in my house or I would come home to find the window
totally blocked by 1 GIANT leaf!!!!!!















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Post by canadianplant » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:06 am

Thanks jim, the answer i found was yes, its just a variation on the species.... damn, i got my hopes up for some Thai Black :( ( i still have a very small chance that one of the seeds germinated will have the variation, but that chance is very very slim)
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Post by hardyjim » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:56 am

Really to bad we can't sneak plants over the border,I know someone who has
Black Thai nanars for sale.
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Post by canadianplant » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:41 am

Well we COULD, Just the reprocussions of gettng caught LOL. Id never ask someone to do that for me... Its just as bad as fishing ove th elimit here, a few years ago, this guy caught caught with a few walleye over the limit ( I think 2), they took his truck, boat, and put a lean up against his house. One guy who got caught over fishiing had his house, car, everything taken ( reeat offfender). As far as i know, they punishments and reprocussions are similar:s
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Post by hardyjim » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:50 pm

canadianplant wrote: . ( reeat offfender).





Huh? :roll:
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Post by canadianplant » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:53 pm

Repeat offender ( like my typos :( )
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Post by hardyjim » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:49 pm

4 days from nothing to this-


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Post by canadianplant » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:39 pm

You sure its going to go dormant in your house?? LOL. I honestly wish mine were growin like that.. not enough sun :evil:
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Post by lucky1 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:19 pm

Is your suitcase packed?
...growing into your bedroom next week :lol: :lol:
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Post by wxman » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:38 am

I'm getting myself one of these in spring. Then the neighbors will really think I belong in the psychiatric ward.

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Post by canadianplant » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:39 am

Dude how much snow did you get in wisconson? From what i heard minnisoda got almsot a foot....
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Post by hardyjim » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:59 pm

canadianplant wrote:You sure its going to go dormant in your house?? LOL. I honestly wish mine were growin like that.. not enough sun :evil:


Not so much dormant but it should slow to a crawl once the heat comes on and dries
the inside air out,the temps also will be more like 65f instead of 75-80f,unless we have a warm winter 8)
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Post by canadianplant » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:11 pm

Thats the temp my house is at right now. MIne are growing still, but i understand what you mean by crawl.
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Post by wxman » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:47 pm

canadianplant wrote:Dude how much snow did you get in wisconson? From what i heard minnisoda got almsot a foot....
Zero, 45 and rain here.

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Post by hardyjim » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:37 pm

Jesse

The snow basically fell in western Iowa then the low pressure(snow) moved NNE up through Minnesota,
wasn't much westward movement to the snow.
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Post by canadianplant » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:38 pm

oh so you were spared the snow then..... not me we got 15cm
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Post by mnpalms » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:03 am

SNOW? Yep, we got it here! Been meaning to post my experience but I spent the entire day yesterday covering my outdoor palms, shoveling, and cleaning up the yard. We got a FOOT of heavy WET snow. We lost some trees (not palms) and many branches down. Largest tree totally down was a 40' Russian Olive (what a mess!). Almost took out the deck.

I got VERY lucky with my palms (7' trachy, 5.5' trachy). I was planning on covering them yesterday (Sunday) anyway as I was driving back into town from up north hunting on Saturday. Driving in on Saturday (the storm day) was a real mess too. I was unaware of the scope of the snow that we were to get otherwise I would have arranged to cover the palms earlier. They were snow-covered and weighted down pretty bad but seemed ok and sprang back once I cleaned them up. I should have taken pictures, damn! My 5' Y. Thompsoniana looked like a big snowball but cleaned up nicely. The temps are moderate (30's F) so no damage was done. These palms have seen 20s a few times so far and have been fine. Now they are finally comfortable in their (expanded this year) enclosure. I also added an access door to the enclosure this year so I can check on them and water them if necessary throughout the winter. Thermocube, they won't see temps under 35f again until spring. I'll take some pictures of the completed enclosure and post when I get the chance.

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Post by hardyjim » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:02 am

I think a lot of people were caught out by that storm/snow as I don't recall
it being predicted at all.

Temps are up and down right now highs in the 10 day are from low 40s to low 60s-
probably cover the Washys before Wednesday just to be safe,when lows in the mid 20s are
forecast it doesn't take them being very far off on their forecast to wipe out the Washys-
just ask Bill about that almost happening!


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Post by lucky1 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:24 am

mnpalms, holy cow!
the last thing anyone thinks of is getting their camera out during such an event :lol:
Glad there was no damage other than the russian olive.
as I don't recall it being predicted at all.
Our forecasts are way off too...they must've retired all the senior weather people around here :lol: :lol:

Jim, better than your weather sticker stuck on zero day after day...
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Post by canadianplant » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:27 am

They were calling for snow here for atleast a week, but they didnt mention the inpact on the states at all ( the weather network is ussualy on the ball with storms close to the border), untill the following day
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Post by TerdalFarm » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:16 pm

We have had amazing weather lately. The plants think it is Spring.
This photo is of Musa basjoo coming back, but I also have Musella and Colocasia roaring back to life.
Please don't tell them (yet) we'll be below 20 oF by the end of the week!

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