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Windmill Palms Uncovered 3-6-10

Post by BILL MA » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:30 pm

Hey Everyone,
I decided this last weekend that I couldn't wait anymore after looking at the long term weather forecast, and unwrapped my three Trachies. They looked just as good as when I put them in there late December too. They look to me like they grew two full fronds each with three more coming, not to bad. I did have a few damaged fronds but it wasn't from cold it was from burning the stems Opps! 12f was the lowest temps these guys saw when the power went out.

I also dug out the basjoo grove because I feared the material around them was wet and going to cause more harm then good. I was right there was some mold starting to grow in the hay that got wet. I'm going to cover them back up tomorrow with leaf bags and a tarp, I think I'll turn the heat on around the 15th of this month to start waking them up. They are going to be crazy this year since all the trunks are still alive.

Pictures before the protection was removed, during and after!
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More to come soon!
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Post by Paul Ont » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:11 pm

Bill- Your Trachys look great! The basjoo, as you know, will come back once they have a chance to dry out! Very nice!

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Post by Barrie » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:47 pm

That's quite an elaborate protection method but I guess you'd need it there. Well done !!!
What are the other pieces still left undercover?

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:04 pm

Bill, absolutely outstanding!
Beautiful job, with healthy green plants as proof.
Even that power blip to 12F didn't faze them because of your well constructed protection.

Two new leaves?
With 20 yet to come!

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Post by serj » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:11 am

Bill, a can't undrestand what is the reason to protect all palms if you had 12 F? The temperature 12 F is -11 C by Celsius. A fortunei is able to take this temperature easy without any damages!

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Post by Paul Ont » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:05 am

serj wrote:Bill, a can't undrestand what is the reason to protect all palms if you had 12 F? The temperature 12 F is -11 C by Celsius. A fortunei is able to take this temperature easy without any damages!
Serj, I think that Bill has said that 12f was the lowest the palms saw inside their protection when the power went out... I assume his absolute low was colder, probably in the 0f range (-17.8C).

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Post by Paul Ont » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:06 am

serj wrote:Bill, a can't undrestand what is the reason to protect all palms if you had 12 F? The temperature 12 F is -11 C by Celsius. A fortunei is able to take this temperature easy without any damages!
Serj, I think that Bill has said that 12f was the lowest the palms saw inside their protection when the power went out... I assume his absolute low was colder, probably in the 0f range (-17.8C).

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Post by BILL MA » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:57 am

Thanks Guy's,
Barrie,
What's left is 3 oleanders that I'm keeping protected so I can get some new growth, a toasted sereona and minor. Not really sure why I
covered the minor I was in the building mood I guess :roll: It was unfazed with a wallowater and some hay. It didn't work well on the
sereona's though, way to wet. All of those little huts are new, and much better then what they had for winter. Oh well they'll all live with
a little set back.

Serj,
Our low was 4f here, I most likely didn't need to protect them that well but better safe then sorry. We had 7 nights in the single digits
this winter, mild winter.

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Post by hardyjim » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:59 am

Everything looks nice Billy boy!

Trachys will get a great start,not to mention the bananas-

Oops,I guess I mentioned them,man they look perfect!

I bet they go(grow) bananas this year-I'm sure they'll be delicious! :shock:
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Post by Mark » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:29 pm

That's Awesome Bill!

Someday for me.

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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:01 pm

oops, yes look at the size of those nanas. :lol: :lol:
(palms first is my motto)...

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Post by BILL MA » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:07 pm

Thanks Mark,
I can't wait to see all of those monster queens you have come out to your beautiful pool area :D :D :D

Trachies will be no sweat for you if you want to protect them a bit! Neither will basjoo's 8) 8) 8)

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Post by Mark » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:07 am

Bill,

My monster queens didn't fair quite so well this year. Terrible Spider Mites again that I haven't been able to control no matter what I do. My larger one is down to 2 fronds and not looking so well. The smaller one looks better with 4 to 5. Hopefully next month when I take them out they'll take off again and perk up!

I will have to try Trachies outside. First I need to find some good sized ones. I have two now but they're both rather small. Here is the large one in the foreground

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I'll post some pics of how the queens look now after I take some pics :-(

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:14 am

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server at s4.postimage.org is taking too long

Misting your queens twice a day (from underneath each frond) can help somewhat.
Or I can send you some ladybugs, which are all over my windows indoors.
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Post by Mark » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:44 am

Barb,

I've been misting, Keeping the humidity up, spraying with soapy water, water/ Alcohol/ soap mix, Neem insecticidal soap..... Just can't get ahead of them.


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Post by lucky1 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:06 am

You're obviously doing what you can Mark.
But spider mites are beggars to control; once they're evident, it's an uphill battle.
The only thing that seems to help mine is to finally get them outdoors for the summer...a ways off yet.

I'll try pics again later...still puked out.
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Post by Corrosion » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:40 am

The windmills look great :) Too bad mine looks like crap.. Once these start growing they wont stop easily :)
Mark.. I have problem with the spidermites too. Hard soaking and misting helps to control them. Occasional neem azal treatments too, but humidity is the key.
I mist my bananas and indoor plants 2-3 per day when possbile and seems to help so far.
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Post by BILL MA » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:26 pm

Mark,
Sorry to hear about those queen palms spider mites are bastards. Your house is most likely just to dry like everyone said, that's when they seem to attack the most.

That's a good sized trachy you got there, mine was smaller then that when I planted it, this will be it's 4th summer coming. I counting on another two foot trunk year.

Corrosion,
Thanks man! So your trachy is alive I'm assuming? Paul seemed to think it was dead but I thought it would pull through.

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Post by Corrosion » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:49 pm

I dont know if it is dead or not but I let the time tell.. I think I´ll dig it out and put in a greenhouse recover if there´s anything to recover. I bought new with better leaves and bigger rootball. Guess I have to start again but new start is something what I need at the moment :) Winter protection is something which I have to seriously recalculate next fall.
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Post by ScottyON » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:42 pm

Looks Awesome Bill!! I'll be copying you next year!

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Post by BILL MA » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:19 pm

Might as well it worked well and it was cheap too! How's Florida? I talked to my cousin and he knows your coming in to his shop.

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Post by ScottyON » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:13 am

Hey, Great! A little cool today, only in the upper 60's today. I went to the gardens you reccomended yesterday. Really cool. I'll post pictures when I get home. What's your cousin's address at his shop?

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Post by BILL MA » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:27 pm

Scott,
the shop he runs is on Main St. On the ocean side, right of A1A. The name of the place is Cristina's, it's right on the corner
as you take the left to parallel the ocean. His name is Kenny, just tell him Bill sent you! LOL :D He has a shaved head and
earings, you can't miss him.

Go to the sugar mill off Herbert you'll love it! Dunkin Donuts is right across the street from the road. Follow the signs, the road
is a 90 degree hard right. Kind of a dangerous turn, be careful.

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Post by BILL MA » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:31 pm

By the way D&D is on Ridgewood heading North from the Dunlawton Bridge :D

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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:11 pm

Bill that looks great! It`s always a good feeling when you finally know that all that hard work has paid dividends when they are alive and thriving. My palms must have wondered if we skipped winter this year. They are showing good growth for the last month uncovered. Thanks for the pics always good to see!

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:28 pm

So, John, the annual question...when are we going to see yours?
(Palms that is) :lol: :lol:
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Post by BILL MA » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:51 pm

Nice John!
You guy's sure did have a nice winter. Have you uncovered any filifera's yet?
Like Barb said pictures would be great too :D

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Post by hilashes » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:29 pm

Nice job Bill! those Trachys are amazing, (I can't wait until mine fill out that nicely!) I also can't wait to see pics of what the nanners will look like in the summer! :wav:

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Post by Okanagan desert-palms » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:52 pm

Bill after seeing how everyones Washingtonias have survived I`m taking the plunge and planting three this spring. Barb LOL I`ll post some pics when I find my camera?


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Post by lucky1 » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:07 pm

Your camera's in the dirt under a palm :lol: :lol:
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