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Trachy traits on new website

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:34 am
by lucky1
Presume it's a new site from UK?
unsolicited, appeared on my email.
Wish we could find palm pot vendors like this locally!

Interesting descriptions of Trachy traits.

http://www.mypalmshop.com/en/shop.aspx

Barb

oops, site is from Holland.

Dutch palms

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:11 am
by TerdalFarm
Thanks for the link, Barb.
I've been to Holland once. We went there for "spring break" in 2007 as airfares were low and we have family to stay with.
I'd say Holland would be fantastic for Trachycarpus. Probably zone 8 by USDA standards as the nearby sea keeps temps from getting too low in Winter (and too high in Summer). I did see some Trachy planted in gardens but I don't remember big specimens (other than in a Zoo) like I'm used to from Oregon. Maybe the Dutch are just getting into palms, or maybe I didn't go to the right gardens. I did enjoy the garden centers I did visit. The Dutch take gardening very seriously.

The only part about the Trachy that confused this novice were notes on the origins of Waggy:
"Unlike Trachycarpus fortunei the palm seems to originate from Japan and Korea at higher latitudes" and also "Comes from Himalaya". Does that mean it was collected in the wild in the Himalaya but that specimens in cultivation in Holland are from Japan and Korea? I ask because I'm trying to learn more about Waggies as they seem like a better Trachy for my windy site.
--Erik

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:51 am
by Paul Ont
I don't know about wagnerianus originating in Himalaya, methinks that's just a typo. It's always been referred to as having originated in horticulture in Japan... And, from what I've read, it is officially just a dwarf horticultural subspecies of fortunei now (T. fortunei ssp. wagnerianus). So when I've been calling it T. fortunei var. wagnerinaus, I was wrong:(

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:07 pm
by hardyjim
Thanks Barb
Interesting and lengthy description of Takil.

Re: Dutch palms

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:27 am
by turtile
TerdalFarm wrote: The only part about the Trachy that confused this novice were notes on the origins of Waggy:
"Unlike Trachycarpus fortunei the palm seems to originate from Japan and Korea at higher latitudes" and also "Comes from Himalaya". Does that mean it was collected in the wild in the Himalaya but that specimens in cultivation in Holland are from Japan and Korea? I ask because I'm trying to learn more about Waggies as they seem like a better Trachy for my windy site.
--Erik
I think wagnerianus may be a cultivar of fortunei. It could have been developed in Japan and brought to Korea. I've yet to see any pictures of it in the wild.