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Newly Germinated

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:13 pm
by Knnn
New plants starting during the winter months makes the time pass so much quicker!

Here's a couple that are just starting on their first fronds,


Ceratozamia microstrobila

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Encephalartos transvenosus

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Steve

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:41 pm
by hardyjim
Why did you wrap cardboard paper around it?





Just kidding,great pics!

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 pm
by lucky1
Great photos Steve, to catch those silken hairs.

Barb

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:30 pm
by Knnn
Thanks for the comments! For me, the camera catches far more detail than I will ever see. (even with my good glasses on :lol:

Things are still moving along,

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Here is another Ceratozamia a little further along,

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Leaflets are just starting to open,

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Steve

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:37 pm
by hardyjim
THAT IS AWESOME! :D

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:39 pm
by lucky1
Exceptional pictures, Steve.
Barb

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:30 pm
by Knnn
Thanks for the comments, feel free to add photos!

A couple more as they progress,

Ceratozamia microstrobila


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Encephalartos transvenosus


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Cycas debaoensis


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Steve

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:31 pm
by lucky1
They're sure responding to warmth! "Periscope up"!

Those c.debaoensis seeds are wonderful, germinating quickly.
Truly beautiful seeds.

Reminded me of this almost pushing the seed off the soil :)

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Keep your camera handy the next 2 or 3 weeks. It's magical.

Barb

Cycad Pics

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:33 pm
by Wes North Van
Awesome pics Steve. What type of camera do you have? The way you can magnify on your close ups is amazing. The detail!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:13 am
by Knnn
Barb, That looks familiar, have a couple doing the same thing :D
I'm using a light mix with these, so it has to be the fast growth rate!


Wes, Thanks! these are a mix from two cameras.
An older Ricoh Caplio G3, only 3 mega pixel, but it's small size and 1cm focus range make it ideal for macros.
The other is my newest, a Nikon D40 8)



Steve

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:53 am
by lucky1
Yes, fast growth causes the seed to stand up out of the pot.

My mix was obviously heavier than yours. They still stood up.
I added fresh soil with a teaspoon so it wouldn't break.

Maybe throw a phone book on top :lol: :lol:
Barb

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:26 am
by hardyjim
Really cool pics-
Drop anchor....and set sail!

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:18 pm
by virtualpalm
Very nice photos, indeed, Steve! I thought you (and others) might like to see some (lesser quality) photos of seedlings from that same batch of Encephalartos transvenosus seeds a little further along here in warm Miami.

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Happy New Year everyone!

Jody

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:38 pm
by lucky1
Holy cow, they're growing right through the shelves! :D

Jody, what is the top dressing?
Pieces seem too large to be perlite.

Happy 2010 to you, too!
Barb

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:44 pm
by virtualpalm
lucky1 wrote:Holy cow, they're growing right through the shelves! :D

Jody, what is the top dressing?
Pieces seem too large to be perlite.

Happy 2010 to you, too!
Barb
Hey Barb. Good question. That is Size 3 perlite -- which is often used in orchid mixes. I buy it in large bags at an orchid supply store here in Miami. I use it as a sterile topdress for newly germinated seeds to reduce fungal infection and ameliorate the moisture content right next to the seed.

Jody

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:58 pm
by lucky1
Perlite comes in graded sizes? :shock:
We northerners are lucky to find perlite...period...on the shelf, let alone a selection :cry:

In a two-fold effort last year, I cut up styrofoam into pieces about the size of that #3...cheap way to get aerating bulk mix into topsoil.
Plus I'd get rid of the styrofoam (at least from view).

But my idea bombed.
Between static electricity build-up (attracted doghair from 3 feet away!) and wind-blown particles cruising across the patio all summer long, I'm back to buying perlite.

Barb

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:23 am
by Knnn
Jody, Thanks for the photos, these seem quite robust!
(I'm sure mine would rather be in Miami :lol:

Both you sent are doing good! If anything, I should have put them in larger containers from the beginning. They quickly outgrew the 20oz ones.

Here's a "before" photo,


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Barb, The only perlite choices here are "Miracle-gro", or "Schultz" :lol:
Of course none will be stocked till spring, I've been mixing orchid & cactus mix together to hold me over. Guess it's time to find an online supplier.


Steve

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:35 pm
by Knnn
Here's a Cycas debaoensis sending up two initial fronds,



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Steve

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:38 am
by BILL MA
How long did those take to germinate Steve? Nothing yet with my seeds.

Bill

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:53 am
by Knnn
Bill, I received the C.debaoensis seeds on 12/11, they all germinated within a week 8)
Not all Cycad seeds work out this well, these were properly cleaned, and stored with a proper hold time.
Made a nice Christmas present !

You should start seeing some results with your seeds after 4-6 weeks, good luck with them, and have a safe trip!



Steve

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 pm
by BILL MA
Thanks Steve!

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:47 pm
by Knnn
A couple recent photos,



Encephalartos transvenosus frond opening,

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Latest Ceratozamia microstobila to germinate,

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Steve

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:32 pm
by lucky1
Vigorous looking.
Great photography Steve.

You must be happy with the camera change.
Barb

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:42 am
by Knnn
Hi Barb, I've had the new camera since last May, just now starting to learn how to properly use it :lol:

All the Cycads have done well this winter, so far just a few leaves burned off in the greenhouse, (had some cold pockets with the -10F/-23C lows), How are yours doing?


Steve

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:03 am
by lucky1
My cycads, despite being warm in the house, south window and misted daily, are at a standstill.
Just like last winter.

Most disappointing has been the Dioon edule.
After ~3 years looks the same as when received.

Indoor palms are leafing out all around the cycads...you think they'd get the idea! :lol:

One problem may be keeping the soil too dry...
trying to reduce fungus gnat population :roll:

But they're alive!
Barb

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:45 am
by Knnn
Barb, They are just waiting for spring 8) I haven't seen any top growth in the GH with the cooler temps, but have noticed caudex expansion. (It seems to me most Cycads do have a continuous growth pattern when happy)

My Dioons have been somewhat faster growing. For me at least, the formula has been deep containers, a mix heavy in Perlite, full sun, and a deep watering every 1-3 days depending on temps.

Here's one from last summer,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steveks/38 ... 140197278/

Good luck with the fungus gnats, I let the spiders have at them last year in the GH. It worked, but now I have a population of little jumping spiders out there.............lol

Steve

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:29 am
by lucky1
Good point about the caudex expansion; I've noticed that too, especially the Z. vasquezii and D. spinulosum.
We lack sunshine during winter, so the D.edule is holding on for spring.
Deep watering every 1-3 days? :shock:
oops..I water it once in 3 weeks

jumping spiders versus fungus gnats...can't decide which I hate worse.

Nice video of dioon flush...
I'll have to sit mine in front of the screen!
Barb

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:11 pm
by Knnn
The Cycas debaoensis fronds are starting to open 8)

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Ceratozamia,

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Steve

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:31 pm
by lucky1
Super!

Now comes the really exciting part of C.debaoensis.

Whether the juvenile leaves have any characteristic waviness, or perhaps the next flush.
And each plant is a little different from the other.
My four evidence that.

Looks like the first will have 7 (maybe 8) leaf segments.
Of mine, two have six, two have 8 :lol: but amount of dividing varies considerably.

Enjoy!
Barb

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:17 am
by Gartem
Dioon Edule

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:41 am
by lucky1
Congrats, Gartem!

What was your germination time?

After C.debaoensis, D.edule are my favorite.

Barb

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:30 am
by Gartem
Sowing 5.01.2010. Actually 34 days. But somehow germ grows up. Even let them grow up and they would see.

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:20 am
by lucky1
34 days is excellent!

Bottom heat? or a sunny window?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:33 am
by Gartem
It is at the aquarium, is obtained without light, with the bottom warms a bit.
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:40 am
by lucky1
Excellent job!
I enjoyed viewing your Flickr photostream too.
Lovely plants.

Barb

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:04 am
by Gartem
Thank you.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:36 pm
by Gartem
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I transcribed it into another container, 15 cm in height. Second seed musty.
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:11 am
by Gartem
Dioon edule
I pulled a little earthen mixture
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 am
by Gartem
Dioon edule
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:09 am
by Knnn
Artem, looking good 8)