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Newly Germinated
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:13 pm
by Knnn
New plants starting during the winter months makes the time pass so much quicker!
Here's a couple that are just starting on their first fronds,
Ceratozamia microstrobila
Encephalartos transvenosus
Steve
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:41 pm
by hardyjim
Why did you wrap cardboard paper around it?
Just kidding,great pics!
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 pm
by lucky1
Great photos Steve, to catch those silken hairs.
Barb
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:30 pm
by Knnn
Thanks for the comments! For me, the camera catches far more detail than I will ever see. (even with my good glasses on
Things are still moving along,
Here is another
Ceratozamia a little further along,
Leaflets are just starting to open,
Steve
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:37 pm
by hardyjim
THAT IS AWESOME!
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:39 pm
by lucky1
Exceptional pictures, Steve.
Barb
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:30 pm
by Knnn
Thanks for the comments, feel free to add photos!
A couple more as they progress,
Ceratozamia microstrobila
Encephalartos transvenosus
Cycas debaoensis
Steve
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:31 pm
by lucky1
They're sure responding to warmth! "Periscope up"!
Those c.debaoensis seeds are wonderful, germinating quickly.
Truly beautiful seeds.
Reminded me of this almost pushing the seed off the soil
Keep your camera handy the next 2 or 3 weeks. It's magical.
Barb
Cycad Pics
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:33 pm
by Wes North Van
Awesome pics Steve. What type of camera do you have? The way you can magnify on your close ups is amazing. The detail!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:13 am
by Knnn
Barb, That looks familiar, have a couple doing the same thing
I'm using a light mix with these, so it has to be the fast growth rate!
Wes, Thanks! these are a mix from two cameras.
An older Ricoh Caplio G3, only 3 mega pixel, but it's small size and 1cm focus range make it ideal for macros.
The other is my newest, a Nikon D40
Steve
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:53 am
by lucky1
Yes, fast growth causes the seed to stand up out of the pot.
My mix was obviously heavier than yours. They still stood up.
I added fresh soil with a teaspoon so it wouldn't break.
Maybe throw a phone book on top
Barb
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:26 am
by hardyjim
Really cool pics-
Drop anchor....and set sail!
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:18 pm
by virtualpalm
Very nice photos, indeed, Steve! I thought you (and others) might like to see some (lesser quality) photos of seedlings from that same batch of
Encephalartos transvenosus seeds a little further along here in warm Miami.
Happy New Year everyone!
Jody
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:38 pm
by lucky1
Holy cow, they're growing right through the shelves!
Jody, what is the top dressing?
Pieces seem too large to be perlite.
Happy 2010 to you, too!
Barb
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:44 pm
by virtualpalm
lucky1 wrote:Holy cow, they're growing right through the shelves!
Jody, what is the top dressing?
Pieces seem too large to be perlite.
Happy 2010 to you, too!
Barb
Hey Barb. Good question. That is Size 3 perlite -- which is often used in orchid mixes. I buy it in large bags at an orchid supply store here in Miami. I use it as a sterile topdress for newly germinated seeds to reduce fungal infection and ameliorate the moisture content right next to the seed.
Jody
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:58 pm
by lucky1
Perlite comes in graded sizes?
We northerners are lucky to find perlite...period...on the shelf, let alone a selection
In a two-fold effort last year, I cut up styrofoam into pieces about the size of that #3...cheap way to get aerating bulk mix into topsoil.
Plus I'd get rid of the styrofoam (at least from view).
But my idea bombed.
Between static electricity build-up (attracted doghair from 3 feet away!) and wind-blown particles cruising across the patio all summer long, I'm back to buying perlite.
Barb
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:23 am
by Knnn
Jody, Thanks for the photos, these seem quite robust!
(I'm sure mine would rather be in Miami
Both you sent are doing good! If anything, I should have put them in larger containers from the beginning. They quickly outgrew the 20oz ones.
Here's a "before" photo,
Barb, The only perlite choices here are "Miracle-gro", or "Schultz"
Of course none will be stocked till spring, I've been mixing orchid & cactus mix together to hold me over. Guess it's time to find an online supplier.
Steve
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:35 pm
by Knnn
Here's a
Cycas debaoensis sending up two initial fronds,
Steve
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:38 am
by BILL MA
How long did those take to germinate Steve? Nothing yet with my seeds.
Bill
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:53 am
by Knnn
Bill, I received the C.debaoensis seeds on 12/11, they all germinated within a week
Not all Cycad seeds work out this well, these were properly cleaned, and stored with a proper hold time.
Made a nice Christmas present !
You should start seeing some results with your seeds after 4-6 weeks, good luck with them, and have a safe trip!
Steve
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 pm
by BILL MA
Thanks Steve!
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:47 pm
by Knnn
A couple recent photos,
Encephalartos transvenosus frond opening,
Latest
Ceratozamia microstobila to germinate,
Steve
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:32 pm
by lucky1
Vigorous looking.
Great photography Steve.
You must be happy with the camera change.
Barb
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:42 am
by Knnn
Hi Barb, I've had the new camera since last May, just now starting to learn how to properly use it
All the Cycads have done well this winter, so far just a few leaves burned off in the greenhouse, (had some cold pockets with the -10F/-23C lows), How are yours doing?
Steve
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:03 am
by lucky1
My cycads, despite being warm in the house, south window and misted daily, are at a standstill.
Just like last winter.
Most disappointing has been the Dioon edule.
After ~3 years looks the same as when received.
Indoor palms are leafing out all around the cycads...you think
they'd get the idea!
One problem may be keeping the soil too dry...
trying to reduce fungus gnat population
But they're alive!
Barb
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:45 am
by Knnn
Barb, They are just waiting for spring
I haven't seen any top growth in the GH with the cooler temps, but have noticed caudex expansion. (It seems to me most Cycads do have a continuous growth pattern when happy)
My
Dioons have been somewhat faster growing. For me at least, the formula has been deep containers, a mix heavy in Perlite, full sun, and a deep watering every 1-3 days depending on temps.
Here's one from last summer,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steveks/38 ... 140197278/
Good luck with the fungus gnats, I let the spiders have at them last year in the GH. It worked, but now I have a population of little jumping spiders out there.............lol
Steve
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:29 am
by lucky1
Good point about the caudex expansion; I've noticed that too, especially the Z. vasquezii and D. spinulosum.
We lack sunshine during winter, so the D.edule is holding on for spring.
Deep watering every 1-3 days?
oops..I water it once in 3
weeks
jumping spiders versus fungus gnats...can't decide which I hate worse.
Nice video of dioon flush...
I'll have to sit mine in front of the screen!
Barb
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:11 pm
by Knnn
The
Cycas debaoensis fronds are starting to open
Ceratozamia,
Steve
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:31 pm
by lucky1
Super!
Now comes the really exciting part of C.debaoensis.
Whether the juvenile leaves have any characteristic waviness, or perhaps the next flush.
And each plant is a little different from the other.
My four evidence that.
Looks like the first will have 7 (maybe
leaf segments.
Of mine, two have six, two have 8
but amount of dividing varies considerably.
Enjoy!
Barb
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:17 am
by Gartem
Dioon Edule
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:41 am
by lucky1
Congrats, Gartem!
What was your germination time?
After C.debaoensis, D.edule are my favorite.
Barb
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:30 am
by Gartem
Sowing 5.01.2010. Actually 34 days. But somehow germ grows up. Even let them grow up and they would see.
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:20 am
by lucky1
34 days is excellent!
Bottom heat? or a sunny window?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:33 am
by Gartem
It is at the aquarium, is obtained without light, with the bottom warms a bit.
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:40 am
by lucky1
Excellent job!
I enjoyed viewing your Flickr photostream too.
Lovely plants.
Barb
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:04 am
by Gartem
Thank you.
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:36 pm
by Gartem
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:11 am
by Gartem
Dioon edule
I pulled a little earthen mixture
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 am
by Gartem
Dioon edule
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:09 am
by Knnn
Artem, looking good