Cycas maconochiei ~ Fog Bay Cycas

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Cycas maconochiei ~ Fog Bay Cycas

Post by Knnn » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:00 pm

This is an Australian cycad which has a nice form.

Some more info --> http://www.pacsoa.org.au/cycads/Cycas/maconochiei.html


These seeds are an early Christmas present, hoping to have some luck with them 8)

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Post by tropicman » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:02 pm

Hey these are some nice looking ones!!!
You okay up there,loose power?
The other seeds loooked like raisins!

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Post by Knnn » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:39 am

Hi Don!
This area got hit pretty hard, lots of trees and power lines down. We only lost power for a day & night, some of these people will be lucky to have it restored by Christmas.

I have a few trees that fell on the house, going to try and cut some of them up today.
How did your area do?

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Post by tropicman » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:34 am

Had some tall bamboo get broke in half,had icing but it melted the next day,no power loss,did you lose any plants in the greenhouse?
We were spared here,saying now 6 inches of snow tonite and tomorrow!

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Post by Knnn » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:48 pm

I ended up burning a lot of leaves off things in the GH. ( had too large a kerosene heater in a small tightly packed area - kept it above freezing at least)

Looks like plenty of snow on the way!, after the ice, I'll be happy with just snow :D


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Post by tropicman » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:55 pm

Well that was the important thing keep things from freezing,new leaves will come.
Hasn't started snowing yet!

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Post by Knnn » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:10 am

Sorry to hear about the bamboo, those were getting pretty tall the last I saw them.

Here is a link to some photos from the area, http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/12355236.html

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Post by tropicman » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:24 pm

Oh Man!
Does that bring back memories couple years back,when the ice storm took my big tree,and put it on top of my house.
Ice storms show no mercy!!!

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Post by Knnn » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:02 pm

Like most Cycas, the end of the seed will split open, this will enlarge as the embryo develops. After a time, the radicle will emerge from this opening.

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Post by Knnn » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 pm

A little further along, if the hold time and everything else is correct, a radicle will soon emerge. ( If not, this is all that this seed is going to do )

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Post by tropicman » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:53 pm

Cool,keep us updated on this seed!

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Post by taylor » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:57 pm

Thanks for the Info about the end of the seed cracking, I didnt know this. Newbie.... lol

Looking for some palm/cycad seeds and seedlings if anyonr has any...
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Post by Knnn » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:52 pm

This link is to a good article that covers some of the aspects of hold times,etc.

http://www.plantapalm.com/Vce/horticulture/seeds.htm


Taylor ~ Once the weather warms up a bit, I'll have some extra seedlings 8)


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Post by taylor » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:29 pm

Thanks for the link (even though I don't think it was for me), it was nice.

And I'll be here. Just starting off so I'll take anything I can get right now.

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Post by Knnn » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:04 pm

You're Welcome!
The Info and links here are always for the benefit of anyone they might help, and I'm still learning as I go along 8)

This one here is to a great collection of Cycad articles : http://www.plantapalm.com/vce/toc.htm


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Post by lucky1 » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:24 pm

Welcome to the site Taylor. You'll learn lots from these knowledgeable folks.
Have you got any palms or cycads yet? If so, how about posting some pics.

Steve, your seed's smiling! (Pac Man?)
Did you soak them?
Asking because they look fairly dry.

Will look forward to pics of the next bit of movement.

Ahhh... nice to find a man easy to buy for !!
I can just see Steve now...digging through the brazil/ nuts on the coffee table looking for an elusive seed to plant :lol:

DON, nice to see you again...sorry about your bamboo.

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Post by Knnn » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:09 am

Hi Barb!
I do most of the food shopping here, I'm always checking the coconuts, looking for cactus pads in the produce section, and whatever other seeds I can find :lol: :lol:

Most of the Cycas seeds I buy average between $1 - 5$ each, so I do whatever I can to improve the odds. Once they are ready, they will soak for a day or two, and then go into a Perlite medium with bottom heat. This keeps the top half of the seed dry, ( where the radicle emerges)

This keeps mold/fungus at a minimum, also, if you pull a seed out and the bottom half is darker in color, then the moisture level is right where it should be.

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Post by Laaz » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:26 am

Steve how hardy is this variety ?

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Post by Knnn » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:46 am

Not too sure how cold hardy they are, they do seem to survive the Australian brush fires, and there are reports of them growing in swampy areas.
I would think they would be similar in hardiness with the Macrozamias ? That is just a guess, if I get some growing we'll see how sensitive they are.


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Post by tropicman » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:11 am

Hi Barb,
Thanks the bamboo will grow back and fast too!LOL
Looking good Steve!

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Post by lucky1 » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:47 am

looking for cactus pads in the produce section
so funny! I bet you serve lots of pineapple and coconut at your dinner table! :lol:
Looks like PEACHES in your planting tray.
Nice color on those seeds.
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Post by Knnn » Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:30 pm

Here we are a few days later with the radicle just starting to form 8)
( these are being held at 25C during the day, and then room temp at night )


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Post by lucky1 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:46 pm

Steve
They're moving very quickly.
From "the smile" to the radicle in less than a week. :shock:
Nice.
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Post by Knnn » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:09 am

Thanks Barb, I potted that one up last night. and quite fast considering I just received these several weeks ago.
( Thanks to Ortanique for fresh and properly stored seed! http://ortanique.com )

Some of the others are not too far behind, The seeds with the "R" on them are Cycas revoluta, these may be a bit more common, but are still fun to grow 8)


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Post by lucky1 » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:50 pm

Looks like Ortanique has a good niche in the seed business.
Bet they'd like to hear your testimonial on how fast they popped! :D

There's nothing common about a revoluta (to this Canadian anyway).
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Post by Knnn » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:10 pm

Just thought I would include that for anyone else who wants to try this Cycad 8)


The revoluta is still common at the box stores here. However, with the asian scale taking it's toll, who knows for how long?


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Post by Laaz » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:12 pm

There's nothing common about a revoluta (to this Canadian anyway).
Every walmart in town has them by the truckload for about $6 -10 depending on size...

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Post by Laaz » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:14 pm

Steve we don't have a big problem with asian scale here although I do spray my cycads about twice a month with oil...

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Post by taylor » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:24 pm

Sorry for the delay, will post pictures soon.

I guess my Wanted post doesn't get much attention? Loving this forum!
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Post by lucky1 » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:47 pm

Laaz, our Walmart has...ah, lemmesee....african violets, cactus, the odd braided umbrella tree, a few bromeliads.
Nothing exciting made it this far north.

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Post by Laaz » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:01 am

Barb our local walmart had Coconut palms in November... (No Coco's will not survive here) Well it may look nice in the house, I'll just put it on my walmart gift card... Oh wait ! I can't use my walmart gift card :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by lucky1 » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:31 am

Cocos won't grow in SC? Too humid?
Ha ha, Laaz.
Plastic cards are still smokin'.
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Post by Laaz » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:18 am

Not too humid, too cold in the winter.

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Post by Wes North Van » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:09 am

cocos can't take anything below 50F. They are truely a tropical palm best suited for the Mayan Riveria or Hawaii
Wes North Vancouver Zone 8b/9a
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:10 pm

Need to remind myself that SC isn't as tropical as it seems.
I mistakenly think of Bermuda (more or less the same latitude).

After all, you're at 68F, 20C today.
My place is 23F, -5C
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Post by Laaz » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:24 am

Yes but Bermuda is out in the gulf stream, very big difference...

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Post by Knnn » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:46 pm

Here is the one that was potted up, nothing to do now but wait 8)

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:58 pm

Stunning shot Steve.

Unbelievably fast germination...robust little beggar :wink:
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Post by Knnn » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:29 pm

Thanks Barb, I hope they keep growing at this speed!

A couple more not too far behind,

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Post by taylor » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:08 pm

I can't get mine to do this from Mr. Chumley...they are just Revoluta. What am I doing wrong? They are in miracle gro planted the same way as yours. But, I didn't soak them or anything and when I shake, I can here the embyo rattling around. Help!!!

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