old c.revoluta beginning to flush!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:04 pm

Despite many years of neglect (and you folks suggesting I ought to bestow a little care...

),
here it comes!
Thanks for making me interested in it again!
...and, yup, that stray gray hair is likely mine

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:01 pm

Nice show! ( and nice photo too! )

As long as the weather stays warm you should get one more flush around mid August

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:33 pm

Oh, cool, Steve!~ Two flushes?
But it's been so bloomin' hot this is probably the August flush, ha!

I hope it's more than two leaves...
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:48 pm

If your taking bets I would say at least 6 leaves this time

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:59 pm

I'd be an idiot to bet against an expert!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:27 pm

Far from an expert...but thanks for the kind words!

For me the last flush is just like clockwork in the middle of August. Sago seeds seem to germinate right about this time too. Maybe a northern hemisphere thing? ( The rest of mine have just started in the last week, so it seems like our plants may be on the same schedule )

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:16 am

Steve, you're probably right about the northern hemisphere thingy.
After all, plants respond to the increasing daylight hours, probably even more than temp.

An exciting time ahead for cycad enthusiasts.
Thanks for making me one of 'em.
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:39 pm

I talked to Robert Chumley about his Taitungensis in depth one night and he told me that his Taits flush every 21 days on the dot and it's almost like clock work. You can set your calenders to it.
I thought that to be very odd that he gets that many flushes, until I remembered that the Tait is the fastest growing Cycad. But I was still a bit leery. Until I got his big one in the mail. Here it is around 21 days of the day I got it from him and planted it myself and I am getting a big flush as I type this. My Birthday is June 9 (next Sat.) and I am having family over. I hope it is fully flushed by then and my family can enjoy it.
Also, Steve is spot on with the fertilizer sparking everything. I had no signs of flush on anything until I threw some 2 year old cow manure on all my Cycads & Dioons and within, I'de say 2 days, EVERYTHING is either flushing or showing signs of a flush.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:44 pm

It took 21 days to get to this from the last pic...
And unfortunately my c.revoluta has 6 fronds (which means Steve's bet was right! but an even number).
Seem kinda SHORT, too...oh well, at least it's alive.

Found a grasshopper on it yesterday...chewing away! He's now a grasshopper pancake on the stucco!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:36 pm

Looks good Barb!
6 fronds are better than 5

The fronds should stretch out a bit more before hardening off, (if in bright light they will keep a more compact form)

How are your other Cycads doing?

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:14 pm

Thanks Steve.
This cycad gets bright morning sun for about 2 or 3 hours, and then full shade.

My other cycads are still recovering from transplanting from bareroot and haven't moved at all.
They looked so healthy when I received them that I'm sure it won't be long now.

Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:00 am

The clearity of your photos amazes me.
With two hours of bright and direct sunlight, it will take a little longer for the leaves to finish, but they should be looking pretty great in a week.
With mine, I would go outside and check mine in the morning and again at about 10:00 when there was not direct Sun and they would not have grown at all from overnight. However, when I would go and look at them at 4:30, WOW, they would all have grown about 5" - 6". Simply amazing.
So give them time and they will be GREAT!!!
However, if your looking for a new flush on your ones you bought from that one place in Canada, I'de wait until next year to see a new flush. They need time to reestablish roots and get all snuggy in their new soil. Now you MIGHT see one, but I just didn't want you to get upset if you don't. Of all the Cycads & Dioons I have bought and had to re pot after shipping, My 2' Taitungensis is the only one that flushed and that was because Robert picked one that he knew would flush soon (Robert has experience growing Taits of over 4 MILLION Taits).
Of the ones I bought from him last fall, only the Nova Wilailik has flushed.
But one way to speed them up would be to do what I do and throw some Cow Manure on them. Like Steve once said, Ferts seem to push them to push new flushes.
Keep us updated on that flush with pics!!!!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:06 am

Thanks Kansas Wes.
Wow, yours grow 5-6 inches between looking at them?

Maybe I'm looking at mine too often (scaring 'em, ha!)
But it's an old previously neglected cycad.

The Okanagan sun is so strong I don't want to risk putting this one in full sun because it's fairly weak I think.
Just thrilled it's flushing, because it didn't at all last year.
I'm learning to be patient (as the species requires!)

I agree that my new ones need time to get snug in their pots.
I won't be disappointed if they don't flush this year.
Just glad to have 'em.

I've only put fish fertilizer on them once...
Cow manure! ha, then I wouldn't be able to get close enough to snap pics

Glad yours are doing great Wes.
Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:38 pm

Forgot to add that at transplanting time I gave them some Thrive (B vitamin).
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:16 pm

I'm sure you'll get some leaves this season!
Cycads can be fast growing ~ I guess the trick is to pay attention to what works best with each plant. You have your Sago figured out so it won't be long till the rest are romping away!

BTW ~ Great photos ! I'm still trying to figure out the Samsung camera I picked up 2 months ago

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:23 pm

Thanks, Steve...cycads have taught me patience (a good thing.

)
I'd rather wait for natural growth than screw up on a fertilizer.

Your Samsung is taking great shots...that storm sky was absolutely incredible.
My camera couldn't have done any better.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:27 pm

Great news Steve, remember the "Shogun" cycad you gave me a year ago? Well over Winter it lost it's last leaf. I thought I had killed it

But with these 100 degree days in the greenhouse and a good drowning of cow manure, it has a new flush with two new leafs. A REALLY neat Hybrid from Robert Chumley, the "Shogun" which is a Hybrid of Taitungensis X Revoluta.
I tell you what, noting kicks my cycads a$$es in gear like like good ole heat and Cow Manure from my G-Pa's Dairy Farm.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:24 pm

Here it is, sorry about the pic quality

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:54 am

Wes, (Kansas) ~ Looks good! Nothing beats a GH in Summer to get Cycads Growing.

The cow manure doesn't hurt either. Unless you are re-potting things frequently ,be sure to use a good quality fertilizer at least once a year to restore depleted minors. I've been fertilizing once a season and then using the water out of the fish tank to give things a boost

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:12 pm

Holy Toledo! Look at my cycad's pups...
I just now noticed several pups are sending a green shoot...even one coming from a "non-pup" (if there's such a thing).
Now I'm worried something's wrong with the mother for these guys to be shooting up.
I've looked at pics of Asian Scale. The white marks on this cycad's trunk don't appear to be scale
(even with my glasses on).

At least I hope not.
There's no white stuff on any of the unfurling fronds.
Barb.
Sorry pic is out of focus.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:40 am

I think thats GREAT!!!
If I had to guess, I would say that your Mother plant is actually so healthy that it is putting them out, not the other way around. However, I AM a "glass half full" guy

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:18 am

Hey Wes, that's a great way to look at it (now that I know it's not scale).
Thanks for that reassurance.
I've moved it into more sun than just a few hours in the a.m. and mist it frequently.
Will take more pics of "pup progress" (as the excitement unfolds)

Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:16 pm

I am thrilled to see this revoluta come to life again after all this time!

Here's the latest pic:

AND !!!!! LOOK AT THE PUPS (darn it, it's out of focus!)

Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:35 pm

Barb, I am amazed that it put out pups as young as it is. Thats not a real big momma to be putting out pups. You are certainly doing something right!!!!!!!!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:45 pm

Maybe, just maybe...the "trick" is to almost let something DIE

and then get onto a wonderful forum like this, where people love the plant you're ignoring,
and it renews your interest in it.

I can't remember how old momma is.
But I'm thrilled she's awake.

It'll be interesting to see how the pups develop, and to what degree.
It's all thanks to you folks.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:23 am

That is great to see !!! Looks Good

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:09 pm

Steve your closeup shots are super (mine are all fuzzy...probably heartbeat at 2 inches away, ha ha).

So here's my theory...my old cycas revoluta has powdery mildew (correctly identified by KNNN

),
Maybe that's why its throwing a couple of pups.

Pups' progress is slow. Barely over an inch long, they're miniature fronds!
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:02 am

Thanks Barb! it usually takes me about 15 photos to come up with one that looks good

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:16 pm

OK this one isn't OLD, you'll recall I bought it late winter at a box store.
Until now it hasn't responded at all.
It's in one of those cheap soft red clay pots that gets "rust" all over you when you brush against it

Barb

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