New Fronds..........

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:16 pm

Wow thats wonderful,never seen a wider range of different size leaves,from old to new!!!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat May 12, 2007 9:36 am

Thanks Don, Have a new camera I'm still trying to figure out ..lol

An emerging Z.floridana mixed in with the orchids.

Cycas petraea

Zamia vazquezii

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:07 pm

Steve,
You got it looking like a cycad jungle in there!!!
How warm has been in there lately,mine hit 90* for the first time this spring!!!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:53 pm

Don - Abot 90 - 95F the last two days. I'll let it get to 100* before turning the big fan on.

This weather is a nice change, can actually see things growing each day now. Soil is starting to warm up too, the in ground Cycads the GH are starting to flush so it shouldn't too much longer for the ones outside.

Steve

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Steve; you have a great collection of Cycads.

Allen

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat May 12, 2007 10:01 pm

I just about have all my plants out of the greenhouse,now so I can give it a good cleaning!!!

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun May 13, 2007 7:31 am

Steve, I posted a thread about new growth. Any way you can take pics of new Cycad flush since they are out and "poseing" for us

Cycads are my favorites. Palms OK to me know, but they are so much harder to care for. Cycads are much slower, but so much easier.
Hope to make it down this week sometime. Lemme know what you want, I will send a PM.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:15 am

Wes, ( Kansas)
I like growing both!!
Palms can be touchy about soil moisture in the colder months, ( as well as Cycads) Trial and error will show what works in your conditions

Most of my stuff is still small - It's great to watch them grow!

C.revoluta

C.petraea- new frond

Speaking of Palms.......

Pigafetta elata

Some misc.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:25 am

Just starting.......

One of a Sago just before a new flush,

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:54 pm

Looking good Steve!!!
Nothing here yet!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu May 24, 2007 6:46 am

Don, Yours should be starting up anytime now! ( A shot of fertilizer will sometimes help wake them up too

A couple small Dioons,

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:04 pm

Steve,
Looking good there,no signs here yet,and have given fertilizer a couple times.
Get any of that rain ????

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:32 pm

12.26 inches of rain yesterday............The weather station in Bennington is probably underwater since they are no longer reporting --> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstat ... 07&month=5

(EDIT---> Actually only 10.78 inches on 5/24)

Well at least the sun was out today

How are things your way?

Steve

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:55 pm

Had a little rain,lots of strong winds,lucky nothing really damaged,cool and cloudy today.
More rain coming next week,
you might think about putting your greenhouse on pondtoons!!!!LOL

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:42 am

Don..lol
I really have been starting to think of things like that

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:08 am

Here's a pic that'll cheer Steve up...and all other cardboard palm lovers.

This takes my breath away!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:47 am

Thanks Barb

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:29 pm

This is same Sago from back on page 2, just finished re-potting it.

Some more misc.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:16 pm

Sorry, my Mom's camara is not as clear as ya'all's. But here are some of my Cycad flushes.

This is one of the 4 Taitungensis X Guizhouensis Hybrids from seed. All 4 look exactly like this one & flush. These are so cute and TOUGH!!!!

This is a Taitungensis w/ a golfball size caudex.

This is the Cardboard palm that if it cones, I need to find someone w/ a mate. The flush is sooo cute.

This is the smaller of my Wilailik in flush. This looks to have the making of a NICE leaf!!!

This is my best looking King. It not only has the pup, but is finishing off a 17 leaf flush. You can barely tell the new leafs from the old ones which tells me that this is a HEALTHY King. Another "Wal Mart" special.

This is my 2' tall Tait. It is pushing up the new flush as you can see, but I HOPE it is opening by Saturday for my party.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:25 pm

Looking good

Curious about pot planting the Cycads, Are you going to pull them out for Winter or leave them as is?
I've read where it may be of some benefit with Palms but have not tried it on Cycads.

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:27 pm

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:53 pm

Knnn wrote:Looking good Curious about pot planting the Cycads, Are you going to pull them out for Winter or leave them as is?
I've read where it may be of some benefit with Palms but have not tried it on Cycads.

Steve

I pulled the ones I had last Winter IN, and they over Wintered pretty good other than a couple younger Kings flushed and with the small light, well you know what those flushes looked like. I have found that with Cycads (especially Ciircinalisis) you need A LOT of light in your over Winter room even thou they are going thru a resting time.
So I once again will bring them all inside but am planning on pulling them up around November (wait to see the weather, if it's like last year in Kansas, maybe even December) and put them in the greenhouse w/ a heater until we reach single digits. Then I plan on keeping them inside w/ single digits until we reach 20's on average for lows, then back to the greenhouse.
HOWEVER!!!! I did plant one of my Kings in the ground and plan on using the "Iowa Robusta" to over Winter it. It is here, lower left in front beside the big Tait.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:45 pm

Thanks for the reply , I thought that was what you were doing...... I should have put a couple in myself

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:47 pm

This one only put out a couple fronds last year but seems to be making up for it now

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:51 pm

Eleven or 12 fronds. Simply beautiful...and way ahead of mine.
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:39 pm

Just wanted to post a pic of this King I have. It's the one from earlier w/ a pup. It was flushing before, and here it is completly done. I REALLY like it cause it reminds me of the ones I see down in Pensacola, Florida.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:37 am

Wow, yours are already done flushing!
Did the pup flush out too?
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:17 am

No, just the mother

. But Mom sure is full. This is the first King I have had that made it from one flush to another without needing to cut old brown fronds off. Oddly enough thou, I do have another one that will also have a full new flush with out brown old leaves. That tree is the one directly planted in the ground beside my big Tait.
I have many Kings, but all but those two need old brown leaves cut off after a flush to look better.
BTW, BOTH of the full green Kings with out brown were bought at Wal Mart. Others can have there over priced trees from Nurseries, I'll just keep my cheap Wal Mart winners.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:41 pm

Macrozamia communis just starting up this season,

Cardboard Palm first leaf, ( Zamia furfuracea )

Little larger one, just starting to send out a frond.

and a brown emergant Dioon edule. ( var. "No Mex")

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:05 pm

Wow I MUST getmyself a GH !!! Spectacular results Steve

That communis' new frond looks like it'll be three times as thick as existing ones.
And your furfuracea could be a twin to mine. Same way it holds its leaves, so beautiful.
I love the faint ridges along the furfuracea's leaves, and the little (forget what the cuts are called) at leaf ends.

And your larger one looks like the new frond will shoot right up straight out of the base!

And that Dioon looks so strong, what a huge first leaf!

Wonder what exactly has to happen to make pups grow on a cycad. The mother plant looks so very healthy, Steve,
so maybe the pups don't need to grow until something happens to the mother? Wild guess.

Attaboy, Steve.
Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:24 pm

Something just occurred to me, Steve.
Hope I haven't got Lori's tags in the wrong plants.

Here are pics of when I got them:

Zamia picta variegata 2 years old. This is the one I thought was a twin to your newly-sprouted furfuracea ???!

Zamia furfuracea (just a tiny baby)

Zamia vazquezii 3 yrs old

Have I goofed and mixed tags?
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:41 pm

Thanks Barb, The GH really does help, I've figured out the ventilation to keep things between 32 - 38C ( As long as it's

Not sure exactly why some throw out more pups than others? Sago's seem to when they reach a certain size, trunk damage can also start them.
( I am suprised to see my larger Z.furfuracea growing - That was the W@lMart special with hardly any roots left )

Think your OK on the tags, Most Zamias start out with 4 leafs per stalk, once they get a little older you will start seeing character leaves. ( if by some chance the furfuracea and picta did got mixed, you will be able to tell with the next leaf or two

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:24 pm

That GH is obviously paradise for your plants.
You've got a good theory (again) about trunk damage.
Have heard that before, and often a plant that's suffering really goes into overtime to propagate itself.
So that would fit with the WMart purchase...it's simply HAPPY to be taken care of.

Yup will wait until the true leaves before I worry about a misplaced tag.
Cheers.
Barb

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:57 am

Hi, Barb

Don't worry, you did not mix up the tags. As Steve says, zamias can look similar when just starting out and the species characteristics will show up later. They should all be putting out new leaves soon with the warm weather.

As for pups, some species do not produce pups at all. And, as with flowering plants, sometimes stress will force them to produce pups as they go into species survival mode -- if the parent plant dies it will have offspring to carry on.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:08 am

Hey Lori, nice to hear

from you. Hope you're having a great season.

Thanks for the reassurance about the tags.
The only thing that made ME question it was that the gorgeous (yes it is

) zamia picta variegata
leaves look so darn similar to Steve's pic of his youngest Z furfuracea. Strange they're sooooo similar.

I absolutely love my plants, Lori. The spinulosum is so elegant looking, especially next to a couple
of my mangy looking palms, ha ha.

And I'm in no hurry to have these babies "pushed".
Just want to settle 'em in so they're happy without risking screwing up with fertilizer.
I mist them lightly a couple of times a day.

Have a good weekend folks.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:20 am

Always nice to see new growth.......

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:06 am

Looking gooooooD!
Wished I could see some here!!!!
If the rain would ever stop maybe something might happen,no one likes to come out in the rain!!!LOL

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:18 am

So beautiful in white hair (ha ha)
Is that two plants in the pot? or is the second growing from a pup?
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:29 am

tropicman wrote:Looking gooooooD!
Wished I could see some here!!!!
If the rain would ever stop maybe something might happen,no one likes to come out in the rain!!!LOL

I know, with this coolness we are getting, it's hard to see much growth in the Cycads. However, looking at the 7 day forecast, looks like GOOOOOD 90's. So with this rain + 90's, we should get REALLLLLLY good growth next week.
So keep us updated on your tropical yard. BTW, I still would love to come by and see your yard. Just have not gotten the word from work to go to Wichita in a while.

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:49 am

Yeah,not looking for all the mugginess with those 90* temps,as I weld for a living wearing leather all day!!!LOL
And the mosquitoes will be out in the billions!!!!!
I have never gone this long ever without a flush from my sago in the 6 yrs I have had it.
But then again disturbing the roots somewhat,when I planted it in the ground,might have a part in why it's not flushing.

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