a few palms

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:38 pm

Just wanted to post a few pics to let everyone know I still grew palms.

These 3 are trachy's the small one in the box is a princep.
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Here are some minors with a new needle wrapped up.
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My oldest needle palm.

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A sabal Birmingham and a Brazoria. Plus a few bonus pics of seedlings that pop up every where. I probably have 500 sabals growing on my property know.

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Thanks for looking.

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:00 am

No way these are all sabal seedlings, thats beautifull! And the bigger ones with needles, just great.. like they originally grow there

soon you will have to start digging them out, do you protect bigger ones or no?

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:52 am

I don't protect the needles after yr 1 and the minors do not require protection. Looks like the seedlings may need another yr before I can remove them, most are only 1 yr old. So far I have not been successful at removing them. The ones growing in walkways and through the patio were lost when I potted them.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:15 pm

Neat to see the seedlings popping up like that.
Had no idea they were so difficult to transplant.

I planted a 4-strap leafed sabal last fall out of sheer frustration that it hadn't grown at all in the pot in 4 or 5 years.
Then I forgot to protect it when temps hit -21C...and a month later 2 feet of snow.
It'll be toast.

That princeps of yours looks great...nice size.
Mine are tiny still.

Barb

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:33 pm

Thanks Barb, I am sure as soon as we get freezing rain and ice the sabal seedlings will be goners. It was just an inflo I cut off at Myrtle Beach and brought home. Sabal minor seedlings are always unaffected. I had 17 inflo's last yr off my minors. Thats my last princep, smallest one didnt make it through last winter. Fingers crossed!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:39 pm

last princep, smallest one didnt make it through last winter. Fingers crossed!

After all our experiences with small palms, I think we're convinced that palms should be older/larger before planting them outside.
With few exceptions they seem to do better when older.

Barb

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:55 pm

It's true very few sabal seedlings survive potting, it's hard to keep them alive when they are small (even harder when you get them bare root without soil like i did..)
I don't think seedlings in the ground will be goners, survivors should be cherished, and yes the leaves on your 4-5 year old sabal will be toast but it will start pushing new ones in the spring.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:08 am

I have a different experience with the sabal seedlings. I've got a bunch of them bare root from Canada a few years ago and they have been travelling to my home in Kazakhstan for three weeks at least. No one died. And what is more all of them still sit in small pot. Years they are not growing but not dying too. Since that experience I've got the the bare root seedlings twice from Moscow and Toronto. They do fine

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:31 am

Lucky you, mine didnt survive 3 day travel inside Serbia, in fact they come alive and after potting they begin shrinking their leaves and that is the end. Seems like they dont grow in pots they are much faster in ground. Plant them if you can.. i would rather try with seeds next time and if i dont find anyone to trade with... trachy s. for sabal s. i'll give them away, Igor i can send you some 20 seeds if you like, just pm the adress.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:51 am

Max, thank you very much for your kind offer but I collected a lot of seeds of the different palms being in Napoli in 2013. Since my climate is not suitable for the palms growing I didn't started germinating them focusing on Yucca plants cultivation instead (thanks to Tim for sharing with the hybrid Yuccas seeds!). Take care, Buddy, and wish your winter would be much milder than what we have here in Kazakhstan

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Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:47 am

You are welcome mate, seeds are this summer harvest it's a pitty they stay on a shelf so everybody else (active members) you are welcome to pm me your adress if you sre interested in trachy seeds, cheers. Sorry for the off topic.. (there is probbably 80-100 left and you are also welcome to trade yours as well) Admin forgive.

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:56 am

Oh btw this winter is mild except few days arround new years eve -13c - 15c the damage remains to be seen.. and i think winter is good for germinating seeds indoor.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:05 am

all of them still sit in small pot. Years they are not growing but not dying too

Igor, thought it was just my sabals that didn't grow in a pot.

Chad, agree that it'll be good to see which seedlings make it.
Definitely keepers!

Barb

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:20 pm

We'll see what happens. It's been raining for days and now the freeze is coming. So tomorrow we will have a sheet of ice across the gardens. Just depends on how deep the ground freezes and for how long. I lost my large sabal last winter and it was inside a box so I am not holding my breath.

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