Sabal Minor Mccurtain

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:02 pm

I should have taken a pic of it but I didn't want to take the plastic tote all the way off as there was some snow up against it and I didn't want to disturb it too much as I wanted to keep the snow there for insulation. That being said, it looked 100% fine...can't say that it grew any under there...but was glad there was no cold damage so far.

Might get to -5F here this weekend....still way too cold for this time of year, so will see how it does after that.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:25 pm

That's ok I was just wandering if mine was too small to plant or not. I was thinking about protecting it the same way you did. Looks like it's supposed to drop below zero here too.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:53 pm

Your talking about next year right? I planted mine probably in early August so it's seen some time in the ground.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:23 pm

If you folks are talking 0 oF, please assure me you are protecting them. That is defoliating for these, or close to it.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:00 am

Ok, I took a quick pic of my Mc Curtin. I didn't want to totally remove the protection since it's frozen in place pretty much so just set camera on the rock and raised the tote. Didn't turn out as good as it really looks as far as color, but it's pretty green. I know we still have a long winter ahead of us but with the cold we've had here I'm pretty happy with how this looks.

First pic is of Mc Curtin

And since I was out there a pic of my Cape Hattaras Sable I also bought from Steve Anderson. This Sable is more protected with heat tape around the root ball, Christmas lights and 1 40 watt light bulb attached to a Thermocube. It too is looking really good so far. Planted just the last summer late, and it loved being in the ground vs the pot I had it in.

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:40 am

It's too early to tell if they suffered any frost damage. Mine looked great but when the Spring came and temperatures went higher it turned brown

Fingers crossed for ya!

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:50 am

Oh yea, I know I'm not out the woods yet.........

Already had some Mexican Fan palms I have in the ground.....and protected experience sever frond burn because I left the top off and was out of town when temps dropped to 9F for one night. Lesson learned NOT to listen to forecasters so close (they had predicted lows to lower 20's so didn't worry)

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:01 am

Looking good, Scott.

Fingers crossed.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:33 am

Yes, looking good.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:04 am

My little McCurtain(about the same size)made it through last winter with now heat only a cover so you should be fine there...lowest temp was -4F twice.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:19 am

I cant help but thing since the tub is almost clear enough sunlight...and some warmth is generated inside the mini greenhouse.

I'll call that wishful thinking.. lol

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:54 pm

Looks like your's is no longer producing strap leaves. It must be a little older than mine. My desert stuff is protected with those clear plastic totes and it was at least 20 degrees warmer inside the totes on sunny days. And these had holes drilled through them to let moisture out.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:21 pm

sashaeffer wrote:I cant help but thing since the tub is almost clear enough sunlight...and some warmth is generated inside the mini greenhouse.

I'll call that wishful thinking.. lol

If it is in the sun it could get very warm/hot in there,you may want to toss a thermometer in there just to be safe.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:59 pm

It's not air tight to the ground Jim. Non of my enclosures are to keep palms from baking and to keep humidity away.

InsanePalmNinja · Post by **InsanePalmNinja** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:59 am

You know what is weried I Pull up the rose cone around my McCarrie and its was string its mutary leafs... what am I doing right?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:29 am

InsanePalmNinja wrote:You know what is weried I Pull up the rose cone around my McCarrie and its was string its mutary leafs... what am I doing right?

In English my friend.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:45 am

Going to have a nice day today so took protection off Sabal McCurtin for the day and to check things out, and check soil moisture etc.

Seems to be holding it's own under the tub with no heat.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:05 am

Jim, I think he said that his palm was starting to produce mature fronds.

Scott, your palms are looking good. I dont own any McCurtains but my Savanah Ga. and Louisianas are unprotected as straplings. It took two yrs before they started producing mature fronds. Now they dont even get tip burn anymore.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:08 am

Good to hear.....I might buy a larger version from Steve Anderson this spring as I have space to fill around the house. My Cape Hattaras Sabal though is much larger and doing fine as well, but it has heat tape around the roots, and Christmas lights inside the enclosure.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:22 am

I have thought the Cape Hattaras was a zone 8 palm? They are one of they prettier minors though.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:37 am

Steve Anderson thought it could go into lower teens. Mind kind of languished in the pot it came it, but stated to take off in the ground.

Seems very happy in it's 55 gallon plastic barrel protection.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:03 am

Use the hotlink and you can post your pics directly

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:09 am

Jim, doesn't that require downloading pics to a secondary site first?

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:33 am

Awesome size palm. Dont those have the costapalmate fronds? If so will give you a very nice look once its mature.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:37 am

costapalmate fronds? don't know what that is, and Google wasn't very clear.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:46 am

Sabal palm fronds.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:49 am

started to take off in the ground.

Yeah, sabals hate being potted, and sulk until planted out.
I've got a few that don't look much larger than when I received them ~5 years ago.

Going to plant mine this year.
They'll have no winter heat.

Barb

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:58 am

Yea, I was shocked how fast the Cape Hattaras Sabal took off once in the ground. I bought it on the large size=more money too so would have felt bad if it had died. The little McCurtin was just $12 so not as big of loss if it died, but it seems to be happy where it's at. Never thought much about Sabals before but like them now because they seem so easy.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:04 am

Never thought much about Sabals before but like them now because they seem so easy.

I wasn't impressed with them either, but when seedlings put out very long strap leaves, pretty nice.

Barb

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:19 am

I bought a couple from Phil when I was out there in Oct. but don't even remember what kind now lol and I have them in the green house for the winter and can tell they are growing like crazy.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:19 am

sashaeffer wrote:Jim, doesn't that require downloading pics to a secondary site first?

Right...
Thanks to Barb and Jim I started posting pics using the links to the secondary sites. Mine is PicasaWeb (Google +)

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:20 am

I do have a photo bucket account, but didn't see how to transfer pics from there directly to the forum here.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:32 am

posting pics using the links to the secondary sites.

Otherwise your hard drive gets too full ~5,000 photos on my Flickr account.
Scott, photobucket must have instructions somewhere.
But here's a good discussion on it: http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/que ... -providers

Barb

EDIT: if you decide to go with Flickr, read this first (includes instructions):

http://www.flickr.com/help/faq/search/?q=sharing

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:35 am

Wish it could be done through facebook. Have many palm/plant related albums on there.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:38 am

FB is "very jealous".
Doesn't want anyone going anywhere else.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:58 am

Scott, it makes it easy if you use a photobucket app to up load photos on your phone. I just pull the card from the camera to my phone and click. Uploading from photobucket is easy too. You just have to open 2 screens. Its easy on my laptop, I cant do it yet on my phone or tablet.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:13 pm

sashaeffer wrote:Wish it could be done through facebook. Have many palm/plant related albums on there.

I'm pretty sure it can be done on facebook. I think you just need the HTML of the picture.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:13 pm

Never mind what I said. I tried to do it and couldn't figure it out. I swear I did it once though. Maybe they changed something.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:15 pm

No, the ribbed ones. It hasn't thrown any new leaves but has gotten a bit larger. We'll see how it does since we have a lot of Winter yet to go yet.

If it makes it through this winter, it will survive anything.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:05 am

After -13 degree F...still looking good. No supplemental heat.