sabal minor

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:52 pm

I have a sabal seedling that is from a KY plant that is about 15 years old so I feel it will have wonderful cold hardy genes but I really like the look of sabals and want a mature or semi mature plant. it just seems no one sells mature sabals, at least I can't find any. someone want to point me in the right direction. I know phil has some on his website but shipping on one that big would be a killer. prefer someplace on the east coast if I can find it.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:35 pm

I think Erik got his from a "mobile nursery" that toured through his part of Oklahoma a year or two ago.

Hope he chimes in here.

Barb

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:09 pm

mobile nursery? never heard of anything like that but it sounds like a fantastic idea..wish I knew that company's name. it seems you can find a decent sized coco palm and other tropical types easier than you can find a mature sabal on the east coast.

andym · Post by **andym** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:27 pm

Hi mike.... this is about as good as it gets for Sabal Minor in Europe. Not enough heat to grow well in the UK and our westerly winds usually damage the fronds. Still great plants though
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sabal-minor-80-c ... 3cccb027af

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:46 pm

miketropic wrote:I have a sabal seedling that is from a KY plant that is about 15 years old so I feel it will have wonderful cold hardy genes but I really like the look of sabals and want a mature or semi mature plant. it just seems no one sells mature sabals, at least I can't find any. someone want to point me in the right direction. I know phil has some on his website but shipping on one that big would be a killer. prefer someplace on the east coast if I can find it.

Mike,

I have the following-
Sabal 'birmingham', 3 G, $30.00.
Sabal minor (Cape Hatteras), 3 G, $30.00; 5 gallon $45.00.
Sabal palmetto, 7 G, $50.
Sabal x brazoriensis, 7 G, $55.

Send me a PM, if interested.

Thanks,

Steve

KrisK · Post by **KrisK** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 pm

Mike, the mobile nursery is a guy that rounds up tropicals in Florida and brings them to us Okies for purchase. I dunno if he actually ships anything or just has his Florida sales and the stuff he brings here when the weather gets warm. Interestingly, alot of his plants are true tropicals ( bismarckia, foxtail, bottle, hibicus, Pygmy dates etc) that are truly just really nice annuals here in OK. I've asked him to bring sabals and California fans but I guess that he doesn't grow them, or more likely, people here won't buy them, since they aren't that "taste of the tropics" people crave. It's easy to forget that we're the minority when it comes to actually growing out of zone stuff, versus the majority that just throws them away after the first hard freeze.
Anyway, tangent aside, Stevea07 is a stand-up plantsman, and probably your best bet. I got a brazoria from him last year. He sent pictures, so I got to pick the actual palm I wanted! It was shipped very well and not a damaged frond on it. His price is very good and also packaging and shipping were very good. Highly reccomend him.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:04 am

Andy, that Sabal on eBay looks like the one i bought last spring here for 100 dollars. Maybe that one was slightly bigger than mine. AlsoAndy, have you ever purchased from that eBay seller? they seem to have a good assortment.

Kris, you are right. Wereally are the minority

Stevea, hi. Do you have access to any Jubaea chilensis ?

andym · Post by **andym** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:58 pm

seedscanada wrote:Andy, that Sabal on eBay looks like the one i bought last spring here for 100 dollars. Maybe that one was slightly bigger than mine. AlsoAndy, have you ever purchased from that eBay seller? they seem to have a good assortment.

Not yet Adam but his prices and more importantly delivery charges are a lot better than from Germany the seller is from Spain but is aiming for the German Market hence everything is in German but deals with a lot of Brits.
Also I've run out of space for anymore plants

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:54 pm

PM sent steve

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:16 pm

Adam, I just started growing Jubaea this past year so it will be 3-4 years before they are a good size.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:42 pm

3-4 years before they are a good size.

Steve, wish we knew your trick for reducing it to 3-4 years (from 10).
Any tips?

Barb

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:03 am

lucky1 wrote:
3-4 years before they are a good size.
Steve, wish we knew your trick for reducing it to 3-4 years (from 10).
Any tips?

Barb

HGH (human growth hormone) and lots of love

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:03 am

Yesterday I met the Monrovia rep for all Ontario, Quebec and Upstate new York. He lives just a few blocks from me here in town. Maybe I've got another source for plants!! Maybe a 4-10 year old Jubaea? hmmmmm...

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:37 am

[quote="seedscanada"]Yesterday I met the Monrovia rep for all Ontario, Quebec and Upstate new York. /quote]

It's awesome! How come you met him? He was passing your place and stared at your protected palms illumination? Keep this us updated!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:01 am

Yesterday I met the Monrovia rep for all Ontario, Quebec and Upstate new York

Wonderful news, Adam!!!!

Ask him if he wants to increase his territory to include BC?

Seriously.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:37 am

Sorry to be late.
Kris is right about the mobile nursery. I have asked them for Sabal minor and they act interested but have not come through for me.

There is a small nursery in town that sells Sabal minor, needle palms, etc (plus my trunked Yucca rostrata).

Another nursery formerly sold Sabal minor McCurtain from seed they collected but once they sold out they lo longer have them.

I have seen "blue pot" Sabal minor at box stores--but only down in Texas. Still, you could ask the nursery manager at your local "box store" (Home depot, Lowes) if they can order you some. Ditto a good local nursery. They have more resources than you do.

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:24 pm

lucky1 wrote:
3-4 years before they are a good size.
Steve, wish we knew your trick for reducing it to 3-4 years (from 10).
Any tips?

Barb

Barb, a 10 year old Jubaea should be 5.5 feet tall. I was thinking of a good sized seedling, say 18-20 inches.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:56 pm

a good sized seedling, say 18-20 inches

Oh, if only those were available...anywhere.
I'd snap one up too...

Some folks in the UK complain they're so slow growing, probably because UK summers are coolish.

Keep me in mind too, please, Steve for an 18-20 incher.

...I'll complete the declaration.
Ahem. cough cough.

Barb

Stevea07 · Post by **Stevea07** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:32 pm

Barb, here's a link with a Jubaea growing in North Carolina.

http://exoten.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/hardy. ... C24D18545D

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:37 pm

Everybody MUST see the palms in Steve's link...are they ever fabulous!

The Jubaea is breathtaking, marvel at the trunk diameter

The brahea...the nannorrhops...sabals....fabulous specimens in a great yard.
Great yucca in there too.

I can easily duplicate the 100F summer days, but have nada humidity when it's hot.

Hard to believe NC is that dry, with hurricanes and gulf stream, etc.
Thanks Steve for the link.
I pretended for a moment that was my place.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:57 pm

Stevea07 wrote:Barb, here's a link with a Jubaea growing in North Carolina.

http://exoten.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/hardy. ... C24D18545D

Wonderful pics! thanks for the link!

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:21 pm

Met the Monrovia rep at the Home depot. He lives just around the corner from me here in Beamsville. They have some nice plants available, but no Jubaea.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:28 pm

Could he get you Sabal minor?

coconutmike · Post by **coconutmike** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:35 pm

Sabal Minor is a very tough type of palm does very well in Montreal even with not too much care. I got them- even up to 7 feet this year. But not allowed to ship that out of Canada. What size you looking for I could point you in the right direction. I got a friend in North Caroline who could Pick that up for you in Mobile Al
mike

KrisK · Post by **KrisK** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:40 pm

She has a lot of good sized, really neat palms. I hope they survive transplanting when she moves in the springtime. It'll be interesting seeing how they do, but I bet they do fine for the most part though.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:12 pm

That is a fabulous Jubaea !

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:50 pm

I just wanted to make a point togive positive feedback to a fellow board member. I recieved my 2 sabals from Stevea07. The trasaction went very smooth. The palms were sent out monday and I recieved them today. the packageing was fantastic. the best I have seen when shipping palms and the plants were in excellant condition. just as the picture was that he sent. wonderful palms good prices and I will certainly be doing business with him again

birmingham

Cape

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:36 pm

Wow, beautiful Sabals.
It'd be a pleasure to unwrap that packaging...what a treat.

Move to Canada, Steve, so we can buy from you.

Barb

KrisK · Post by **KrisK** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:57 pm

They look great. Don't see a bent frond one, congrats!

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:23 pm

Agreed, those are super!

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:52 pm

Im very very happy with them and glad I got them if anyone in the states needs a good sabal or a few others steve is the place to go

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:49 am

lucky1 wrote:Wow, beautiful Sabals.
Move to Canada, Steve, so we can buy from you.

or to Europe

Eriktampabay · Post by **Eriktampabay** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:49 am

Has anyone tried the Sabal Riverside? I just received a bunch of seeds from Cali that I am getting ready to germinate.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:38 am

I've got a little S.riverside.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/8331520378/" title="034 by edible_plum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8217/8331 ... 86e0_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="034"></a>

Obviously haven't been giving it the right conditions.
Really slow grower when young (aren't all Sabals???)

Good luck with your seeds.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:51 pm

Yup, all slow, but that one looks great.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:04 pm

Hey Erik, meant to ask you:
Since Sabals like swampy ground, I've been thinking of putting pots into the fishpond.
Maybe just an inch or two immersed?

Our summer dry heat/wind is probably hard on them?

Think that might speed them up?

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:29 pm

In habitat, most are in swampy ground or near streams (at least in McCurtain County, OK). But I do see some up high and dry.
Still, the biggest ones are in swamps. So, I say give it a try.
My little ones are in pots that sit in a container and so are usually damp.
Photo taken 1 minute ago--sure love cell phone Flickr app, plus our amazing weather lately:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drterdal/8456011787/" title="IMAG1570.jpg by drterdal, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8456 ... b9006a.jpg" width="299" height="500" alt="IMAG1570.jpg"></a>

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:36 pm

Erik,
Yours have such long long leaves.
Beautiful.

OK, I'll give them a try in the fishpond this year.

I've seen that Flickr app emblazoned across the sign-in page...sure glad they removed the sound (I don't have a cellphone).
I was always "racing" the ad.

Got my hands on some McCurtain seeds this year.
Hope to have at least one come up.

Thanks!
Barb

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Never thought I would buy a Sable, but those pics Mike posted........well, have 1 Cape Hatteras coming now from Steve.

Have just the perfect spot of it too...

PalmsNorth.com

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