Dead/dying update, some survivors
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Dead/dying update, some survivors
Tough year, with lots of damage.
I should never have put some of them onto the covered south porch during a mild spell late winter.
Toast:
Trachy Naini Tal, unheated but covered during winter outdoors.
Doubt that Freeze-Pruf application provided ANY help!
Spear hasn't pulled...the whole palm is likely petrified, LOL.
Yucca rostrata x ?, unheated but covered during winter outdoors.
A bit of green showing, but even that's fading.
Jelly palm, collapse despite 3 soil-drenches of 3% hydrogen peroxide for root rot/fungus.
Desert Rose (Adenium), again dropped its new leaves
Some good news:
the little Joshua Tree's filaments and woody trunk.
Dune aloe is growing so fast it needs to be propped up to prevent tipping over.
The six Yucca rostrata "sapphire skies" are all doing well in this heat.
Two Brahea armata love heat, note dried up dead clover in pots!
Cold damage to lower leaves but Grapefruit is recovering:
I think this Canary Island Date Palm, wintered in a cold building, loves this early heat = bulletproof:
Spindle palm (left) and Bottle Palm: mites on bottle, yet spindle not affected.
Sunburn on Triangle.
Cycas debaoensis beginning flush:
Bottle palm spear pushing:
A month of cold this winter, with many grey days.
Now it's hot, with no rain.
...thinning the herd, again.
Barb
I should never have put some of them onto the covered south porch during a mild spell late winter.
Toast:
Trachy Naini Tal, unheated but covered during winter outdoors.
Doubt that Freeze-Pruf application provided ANY help!
Spear hasn't pulled...the whole palm is likely petrified, LOL.
Yucca rostrata x ?, unheated but covered during winter outdoors.
A bit of green showing, but even that's fading.
Jelly palm, collapse despite 3 soil-drenches of 3% hydrogen peroxide for root rot/fungus.
Desert Rose (Adenium), again dropped its new leaves
Some good news:
the little Joshua Tree's filaments and woody trunk.
Dune aloe is growing so fast it needs to be propped up to prevent tipping over.
The six Yucca rostrata "sapphire skies" are all doing well in this heat.
Two Brahea armata love heat, note dried up dead clover in pots!
Cold damage to lower leaves but Grapefruit is recovering:
I think this Canary Island Date Palm, wintered in a cold building, loves this early heat = bulletproof:
Spindle palm (left) and Bottle Palm: mites on bottle, yet spindle not affected.
Sunburn on Triangle.
Cycas debaoensis beginning flush:
Bottle palm spear pushing:
A month of cold this winter, with many grey days.
Now it's hot, with no rain.
...thinning the herd, again.
Barb
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Barb,
thanks for sharing the pain.
That hurts--the Trachy naini tal should have been alright; the Butia should have recovered. Sorry.
To turn to the positive, the Phoenix has risen from the ashes!
The triangle intrigued me. I had never thought of trying to grow one, even in a pot. I love seeing them in the ground in the tropics.
Keep us updated. You are inspirational.
--Erik
thanks for sharing the pain.
That hurts--the Trachy naini tal should have been alright; the Butia should have recovered. Sorry.
To turn to the positive, the Phoenix has risen from the ashes!
The triangle intrigued me. I had never thought of trying to grow one, even in a pot. I love seeing them in the ground in the tropics.
Keep us updated. You are inspirational.
--Erik
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Erik,
Agree with your Naini Tal comment...probably the Freeze-Pruf LOL.
Both Spindle and Triangle palms are lovely in tall skinny pots, as the palms stay relatively slender.
Easy to tuck into a well-lit corner in your Ballroom
Yup...I'm thrilled the CIDP is doing well.
Can't remember how long I've had it...likely 15 yrs at least.
I'll PM you some (very funny) pics of when I repotted it (myself) using the tractor.
A few members here will remember that gong show
Barb
Agree with your Naini Tal comment...probably the Freeze-Pruf LOL.
They're not at all hardy, so pots are my (our) only option.triangle intrigued me. I had never thought of trying to grow one, even in a pot
Both Spindle and Triangle palms are lovely in tall skinny pots, as the palms stay relatively slender.
Easy to tuck into a well-lit corner in your Ballroom
Yup...I'm thrilled the CIDP is doing well.
Can't remember how long I've had it...likely 15 yrs at least.
I'll PM you some (very funny) pics of when I repotted it (myself) using the tractor.
A few members here will remember that gong show
Barb
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Thanks folks.
W.fiifera wasn't outdoors this winter (I chickened out again).
Glad I did, coz they're alive.
I'm so disappointed in the Naini Tal result.
Anybody want my bottle of Freeze-Pruf?
Damn...I loved that palm!
The rostrata is a x...forgot with what.
So it wasn't as hardy as y.rostrata generally.
Doomed from the outset.
Yup, that CIDP is a gem, loves the heat and winds are OK.
Barb
W.fiifera wasn't outdoors this winter (I chickened out again).
Glad I did, coz they're alive.
I'm so disappointed in the Naini Tal result.
Anybody want my bottle of Freeze-Pruf?
Damn...I loved that palm!
The rostrata is a x...forgot with what.
So it wasn't as hardy as y.rostrata generally.
Doomed from the outset.
Yup, that CIDP is a gem, loves the heat and winds are OK.
Barb
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Sorry for your loses Barb.
Adeniums and Pachypodiums can be a little finicky about water and
temp swings,I think by nature they are designed to have some dormancy period-
or they wouldn't be built to store so much water.
Since mine don't do any thing in winter anyway I just put them in a spot out of the
light.
That Naini Tal situation is a drag,it looks like..... it doesn't get enough water?
I don't know WTFD is with freeze-pruf!
I would almost swear it kills anything you spray it on!
I would cut all the dead material off your Naini Tal and Yucca and give them a little more time
and water
Adeniums and Pachypodiums can be a little finicky about water and
temp swings,I think by nature they are designed to have some dormancy period-
or they wouldn't be built to store so much water.
Since mine don't do any thing in winter anyway I just put them in a spot out of the
light.
That Naini Tal situation is a drag,it looks like..... it doesn't get enough water?
I don't know WTFD is with freeze-pruf!
I would almost swear it kills anything you spray it on!
I would cut all the dead material off your Naini Tal and Yucca and give them a little more time
and water
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While we didn't have a particularly tough winter compared to some years, this winter was very dark, little sun.
And lack of bright light is what I thought almost "did in" the Pachypodium and Adenium.
I thought they preferred dry conditions overwintering in the house, but bright light.
This winter they were in the dark front hall (versus south window previously).
Yup, that Naini Tal burns me up too.
It SHOULD have made it with all those buckets and wraps and tarps in its sheltered spot (despite no heat).
I didn't overwater in spring because it was so darn cold here, didn't want to encourage rot.
Then when it warmed I gave it water every two or three days.
Same with the Y.rostrata x.
I will "prune" the Naini Tal to see if I can find some live tissue.
Couldn't do any harm if it's dead.
Thanks...
Barb
And lack of bright light is what I thought almost "did in" the Pachypodium and Adenium.
I thought they preferred dry conditions overwintering in the house, but bright light.
This winter they were in the dark front hall (versus south window previously).
Yup, that Naini Tal burns me up too.
It SHOULD have made it with all those buckets and wraps and tarps in its sheltered spot (despite no heat).
I didn't overwater in spring because it was so darn cold here, didn't want to encourage rot.
Then when it warmed I gave it water every two or three days.
Same with the Y.rostrata x.
I will "prune" the Naini Tal to see if I can find some live tissue.
Couldn't do any harm if it's dead.
Thanks...
Barb
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Barb sorry to hear about your losses. I read a few years ago the rule of thumb for planting any T. fortunei "nainital " is that the trunk should be at least as large as a loaf of bread. I think maybe it was to small to get through our cold blast in Dec. without heat for the first few years . I feel bad that the the Y. rigida x rostrata I sold you is looking so bad. I will try one this year with 200 watt infrared bulb to see if they will survive with some supplemental warmth. Nice to see that Joshua tree doing well for you and that Dune aloe. I wish I had a C.date palm as nice as yours.Ps. I found my camera so will post pics soon.
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Yup, John, now that you mention the Naini Tal trunk size, it rings a bell with me too.
Oh well, we learn till we die.
I'm just glad I didn't leave one of your Washy filifera out this winter.
And it was my choice to plant the yucca rostrata x so don't you feel bad!!!!
Yes that Joshua and Dune Aloe are great additions to the patio.
Friends have asked what the Joshua was, and said later they had enjoyed looking up Joshua Tree National Park website.
One reminded me I'd be 209 years old when mine looked like the website's specimens
Pictures soon? Good.
I was beginning to think you had dropped your camera into Okanagan Lake during a boating adventure
Folks...it's worth the lengthy wait to get John's pics each year...jaw-dropping palms.
I had the pleasure of seeing them in person.
BTW, how's your Bottle Palm doing? Mine got spider mites, so I've been hacking leaves off (and it doesn't have many).
Looks so-so now, but it'll do fine with some humidity now that it's outdoors.
Barb
Oh well, we learn till we die.
I'm just glad I didn't leave one of your Washy filifera out this winter.
And it was my choice to plant the yucca rostrata x so don't you feel bad!!!!
Yes that Joshua and Dune Aloe are great additions to the patio.
Friends have asked what the Joshua was, and said later they had enjoyed looking up Joshua Tree National Park website.
One reminded me I'd be 209 years old when mine looked like the website's specimens
Pictures soon? Good.
I was beginning to think you had dropped your camera into Okanagan Lake during a boating adventure
Folks...it's worth the lengthy wait to get John's pics each year...jaw-dropping palms.
I had the pleasure of seeing them in person.
BTW, how's your Bottle Palm doing? Mine got spider mites, so I've been hacking leaves off (and it doesn't have many).
Looks so-so now, but it'll do fine with some humidity now that it's outdoors.
Barb
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