Here are my two in-ground trachies. One is 4.5' and the other is 7'. Yucca Thompsoniana also. I'm devoting a second planter of the same size on the other end of the pool to all basjoos. I have put in two basjoos so far. Slow growing so far because of the nights still getting down in the 40's. Another week when they take off better, I'll put in another 3 or 4. Then I'm putting in 4 more in the front yard along with another trachy I have in a pot. My 10' basjoo in ground had only produced one new leaf since being put back in ground 3 weeks ago! It is not 10' anymore...has lost some leaves to wind and sunburn but otherwise doing fine and its 4 pups are doing ok. After a nice April we are having a cool start to May!
Both in ground trachies are doing very well and are putting out growth though. Neither were originally bare-root specimens. That makes all the difference when planting in ground in my area I believe. Instantly established...
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More pics of my other plants to follow as I have time...
Mnpalm's in-ground trachies Spring '10
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Paul Ont
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Hey MNPalms- Looks like you're challenging Scotty for the coldest Trachys on this board! I feel that mine, which is of no ornamental value, doesn't count since it only ever has 2 tiny leaves... It may actually have finally kicked the bucket this past winter...
Looking good! You going to give the Y. thompsoniana the same winter protection?
Looking good! You going to give the Y. thompsoniana the same winter protection?
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Looking good Kory
I guess that's what happens when we have no frost in April here-pretty unusual-
You get a cool May,I hope that's not the case but at least everything is established and cool May
or not,some of my bananas are working on leaf 3-4.
It has also been very dry (humidity),I don't ever remember so many days in the 20s
and teens humidity wise.
My tree ferns are not happy but continue to grow,looks like a more rainy pattern coming in
it's all good this time of year!
How is your winter "damaged" Trachy doing?
I guess that's what happens when we have no frost in April here-pretty unusual-
You get a cool May,I hope that's not the case but at least everything is established and cool May
or not,some of my bananas are working on leaf 3-4.
It has also been very dry (humidity),I don't ever remember so many days in the 20s
and teens humidity wise.
My tree ferns are not happy but continue to grow,looks like a more rainy pattern coming in
it's all good this time of year!
How is your winter "damaged" Trachy doing?
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mnpalms
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Thanks guys.
Yeah, as long as the yucca is in the same planter it may as well get the same trachy protection even though it does not need near the amount of protection. The planter gets completely covered and heated with xmas lights and CFL fixtures similar to what Arctic Tropical does in N. Utah. I don't use foam board though, it is a light weight wood frame 2x2 pine which will be expanded this winter, it only used to cover half the planter. It is stabilized with chicken wire and has a plywood top. It is then covered in old bed comforters/blankets, then completely covered in silver bubble wrap insulation that comes in 4' wide rolls. The stuff is only about 3/8" thick but works extremely well. Then on top of that goes a boat cover (big tarp that is not too ugly). It is controlled by a thermocube (lights on at 35f and off at 45f). Cheap to run and easy to set up. I still have to build the second half of the frame but I have plenty of time... It will be set up so it installs in two pieces and then they screw together. Easy up and down. I also use leaf bags on the outside bottom for extra ground insulation but I learned last year to NOT heat the ground inside under the mulch as it is not necessary. Long story for another thread...
We have not had a frost since mid March here. April was great but this first week of May has been cool (except for 82f on Tuesday). We look to be out of this upper 50s/low 60s highs, mid/upper 40s at night garbage, by this Sunday. The extended looks to be about average following this (about 70f highs, lows in the 50s). I hope the 2-week forecast holds true!
Yeah, as long as the yucca is in the same planter it may as well get the same trachy protection even though it does not need near the amount of protection. The planter gets completely covered and heated with xmas lights and CFL fixtures similar to what Arctic Tropical does in N. Utah. I don't use foam board though, it is a light weight wood frame 2x2 pine which will be expanded this winter, it only used to cover half the planter. It is stabilized with chicken wire and has a plywood top. It is then covered in old bed comforters/blankets, then completely covered in silver bubble wrap insulation that comes in 4' wide rolls. The stuff is only about 3/8" thick but works extremely well. Then on top of that goes a boat cover (big tarp that is not too ugly). It is controlled by a thermocube (lights on at 35f and off at 45f). Cheap to run and easy to set up. I still have to build the second half of the frame but I have plenty of time... It will be set up so it installs in two pieces and then they screw together. Easy up and down. I also use leaf bags on the outside bottom for extra ground insulation but I learned last year to NOT heat the ground inside under the mulch as it is not necessary. Long story for another thread...
We have not had a frost since mid March here. April was great but this first week of May has been cool (except for 82f on Tuesday). We look to be out of this upper 50s/low 60s highs, mid/upper 40s at night garbage, by this Sunday. The extended looks to be about average following this (about 70f highs, lows in the 50s). I hope the 2-week forecast holds true!
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As requested, here's a few winter cover pictures... I've since relocated that needle palm. It survived last winter without heat believe it or not (suffered partial defoliation though).
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As requested, here's a few winter cover pictures... I've since relocated that needle palm. It survived last winter without heat believe it or not (suffered partial defoliation though).
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I believe it! Did you have the same mild winter that we had?mnpalms wrote: I've since relocated that needle palm. It survived last winter without heat believe it or not (suffered partial defoliation though).
I have had one (3 gallon) that continues to get smaller and smaller each year. I protect it with a wrapping. You've got to watch for spear pull in unheated needles though. The things just seem to love to rot!
FYI- Yucca thompsoniana will NOT survive a zone 4b/5a winter without protection (maybe in a southwestern zone). I learned that the hard way... Cost me $50 too!
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We had a pretty typical winter I think. Not terribly cold, I believe -12F or so was my absulute lowest- I should look at my records again and verify that. I track it pretty closely with my numerous remote thermometers. We always stay a few degrees warmer than the airport records officially because of the geography here though. We did get tons of snow, much more than usual. We did get the nice early spring too. Went from well over 2 feet of snow on the ground to zero from March 1st to March 15th.
Yeah I figured the y. thompsoniana was not cold hardy to over -20F as claimed. I figure it should be about as hardy as a rostrata which would not make it here without protection of some sort. Not necessarily the cold, but the snow and moisture when cold. It will be living in luxury this winter with the trachies remaining between 35-45F. I have y. filamentosas in the front yard that don't get any protection. The only damage they got this past winter were a few chewed tips (rabbits I think). They are really growing now and look great! I'm going to get a few more at the place I got them last year. They were only about $8 and were Monrovia brand (really high quality grower).
Yeah I figured the y. thompsoniana was not cold hardy to over -20F as claimed. I figure it should be about as hardy as a rostrata which would not make it here without protection of some sort. Not necessarily the cold, but the snow and moisture when cold. It will be living in luxury this winter with the trachies remaining between 35-45F. I have y. filamentosas in the front yard that don't get any protection. The only damage they got this past winter were a few chewed tips (rabbits I think). They are really growing now and look great! I'm going to get a few more at the place I got them last year. They were only about $8 and were Monrovia brand (really high quality grower).
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thanks for the pics, mnpalms.
Nice protection job.
Barb
Nice protection job.
Barb
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Well I guess I have to eat my words from my post above. It is May 9, 2010 and the low last night here in my yard was 34.2F! Just on the verge of a freeze in MID MAY! We had not had a frost since mid MARCH. An hour north of here they got inches of snow overnight Friday night. I suppose we are now paying for our nice March and April now... We are to snap out of this today and are not forecast to dip below 40f again from here on in and hit the 70s/80s again (hopefully for good) in this coming week. This is the LATEST last 30s I've seen in many years here, even more strange following a record breaking spring green-up. ??????
How are you guys to the north faring? How about you too down there in Iowa Jim? Your signature shows 35F right now. Is that accurate? This should not hurt my bananas too bad, probably slow them down though. I only have put two of them back in ground at this point (thank God) and was able to cover the shorter one but the big one was too big to cover. How about all the tender stuff you have in ground now Jim? The trachies (in ground and potted) don't mind this, nor my washy (potted) but it has to be hard on the bananas...
How are you guys to the north faring? How about you too down there in Iowa Jim? Your signature shows 35F right now. Is that accurate? This should not hurt my bananas too bad, probably slow them down though. I only have put two of them back in ground at this point (thank God) and was able to cover the shorter one but the big one was too big to cover. How about all the tender stuff you have in ground now Jim? The trachies (in ground and potted) don't mind this, nor my washy (potted) but it has to be hard on the bananas...
Castor's,Brugmansia,Cannas,Bananas and Colocasia were my concerns last night.
Castor's are the only ones that are showing any leaf damage but they will grow out of
that quickly.
Very quick turn around and short duration was the key.
This happened in April once too but no real damage then either.
Air temp/low temp was 36 last night same as in April,so no worries
this time either,looks like cool the next few days with heavy rain then back to
70s and if the long range forecast can be believed,80s after that.
We'll see.
Castor's are the only ones that are showing any leaf damage but they will grow out of
that quickly.
Very quick turn around and short duration was the key.
This happened in April once too but no real damage then either.
Air temp/low temp was 36 last night same as in April,so no worries
this time either,looks like cool the next few days with heavy rain then back to
70s and if the long range forecast can be believed,80s after that.
We'll see.
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Fire going
We have a fire going in the fireplace--thought we were done with that!
Low yesterday was 43oF. Not a big deal, but I wish I had brought in my wife's tiny new Traveller's palm in a pot. It is OK, but did not like that chill. --Erik
Low yesterday was 43oF. Not a big deal, but I wish I had brought in my wife's tiny new Traveller's palm in a pot. It is OK, but did not like that chill. --Erik
Nice trachys you got there Kory! I'm sure you can't wait to be swimming around in that pool looking at them.
No frost here either night the lows where 37f and 36f, much colder then I would have liked. I covered my crepe
myrtles just in case, since they where calling for 33f on that last night.
It was tough having to leave all my plants in the truck from my Florida load, I just wanted to look at them!
Bill
No frost here either night the lows where 37f and 36f, much colder then I would have liked. I covered my crepe
myrtles just in case, since they where calling for 33f on that last night.
It was tough having to leave all my plants in the truck from my Florida load, I just wanted to look at them!
Bill
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mnpalms
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Yeah this damn weather ended up double-dipping and lasting twice as long as originally forecast. We have exceeded 60f only once in the past 7 days! Mid 30s was the lowest we hit two nights in a row. It's been 40s at night and rain every day otherwise. Finally the forecast shows normal weather returning by Friday and remaining through at least the 14-day forecast (70s/80s highs, lows 50f or higher). Finally the bananas will start moving again... I'm lucky I didn't get the time to put in any vegetables yet. I usually have them in by May 1st at the latest.
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