Chamaerops humilis & Phoenix canariensis
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Chamaerops humilis & Phoenix canariensis
After a deluge yesterday afternoon and overnight, I wandered out in my garden with camera in hand this morning.
Looks like the Chamaerops humilis and Phoenix canariensis wheren't washed away.
Second photo showing some of the Chamaerops trunk detail and suckering.
Cheers, Barrie.
Looks like the Chamaerops humilis and Phoenix canariensis wheren't washed away.
Second photo showing some of the Chamaerops trunk detail and suckering.
Cheers, Barrie.
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Barrie, what do you use to protect the Phoenix?
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Those look awesome
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Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
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seed harvest platform
I figured the platform was built to help harvest seed in a few years when they are tall
Good question Cameron ... Presently I use an enclosure that has a galvanized steel frame and poly cover.Cameron_z6a_N.S. wrote:Barrie, what do you use to protect the Phoenix?
These palms are planted quite close to a native Oregon/Bigleaf maple (Acer macrophyllum) which is rather messy from litter during autumn thru spring. This cover also keeps rain, frost or snow off the palm which helps emmensely.
Eventually, I'll have to do as some of our British compatriots have done (pic below).
Cheers, Barrie.
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As always, Barrie, beautiful.
Looks like your Ch.humilis has 3 heads...the little one I got from you a few years ago has 3 as well.
I love the suckering...more chance of survival.
Great phoenix. Mine is getting almost too heavy to lug around in its garbage can.
It's outside under the roof since yesterday.
That British phoenix pic...how does he get those very stiff fronds straight up like that???
Mine seem too stiff to do that.
Barb
Looks like your Ch.humilis has 3 heads...the little one I got from you a few years ago has 3 as well.
I love the suckering...more chance of survival.
Great phoenix. Mine is getting almost too heavy to lug around in its garbage can.
It's outside under the roof since yesterday.
That British phoenix pic...how does he get those very stiff fronds straight up like that???
Mine seem too stiff to do that.
Barb
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You got me curious so I went out and counted the sattelites (suckers) and there's five. If you've ever seen mature pics of these, they're quite stunning.
Seems like you'll need to plant your Phoenix sometime soon. I'm really waiting for an explosion of growth on mine ... perhaps this year. A fellow enthusiast in Surrey (Vancouver BC suburb) has one planted and he said to expect a huge growth surge anytime now.
As far as gathering the fronds to winter wrap ... I'd wager some forcing would be needed. I also believe he trims the lower fronds to aid in his quest.
Cheers, Barrie.
Seems like you'll need to plant your Phoenix sometime soon. I'm really waiting for an explosion of growth on mine ... perhaps this year. A fellow enthusiast in Surrey (Vancouver BC suburb) has one planted and he said to expect a huge growth surge anytime now.
As far as gathering the fronds to winter wrap ... I'd wager some forcing would be needed. I also believe he trims the lower fronds to aid in his quest.
Cheers, Barrie.
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Five! Wonderful!
Phoenix planted in the North Okanagan?
Our newest member calls us "bold", but we know we're crazy
Even I'm not crazy enough to plant this Phoenix in my zone, global warming or not.
I hope yours explodes...will live vicariously through yours.
Absolutely L O V E the look when they form a trunk and the "boots" are held high.
I've been trimming the lower fronds to expose the boots, which looks lovely.
But will have to wear an armor of chain mail (spelling?) to get the fronds vertical like your picture showed.
Barb
Phoenix planted in the North Okanagan?
Our newest member calls us "bold", but we know we're crazy
Even I'm not crazy enough to plant this Phoenix in my zone, global warming or not.
I hope yours explodes...will live vicariously through yours.
Absolutely L O V E the look when they form a trunk and the "boots" are held high.
I've been trimming the lower fronds to expose the boots, which looks lovely.
But will have to wear an armor of chain mail (spelling?) to get the fronds vertical like your picture showed.
Barb
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Phoenix
I'll be planting a Phoenix roebelini today, but it will be dug up and brought inside for winters. --Erik
Why not pot plant?
It would save you and your palm a lot of trouble
It would save you and your palm a lot of trouble
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I have been thinking of potplanting as a way of creating the "atmosphere" in my garden too. Some species I cannot never plant out but creating short illusion is worth it. Some roots tend to push out from the drainage holes but it´s small loss for roots compared to plant and dig every year.hardyjim wrote:Why not pot plant?
It would save you and your palm a lot of trouble
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In ground vs. in pot
Jim,
are you married?
Nothing personal, but it might help understand the incomprehensible.
The best answer I can give is, "the W wants it planted, and she wants me to dig it up on October."
I have no idea why. I go through this routine every Spring and every Fall with a myriad of plants.
I have gotten away with one exception, for her Washy, by buying an expensive pot for it:
[img]<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vX ... site"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_r-MvN4jW1sE/S7VAj ... GP1282.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/terdalfarm/ ... ">ballroom plants 2010</a></td></tr></table>[/img]
Here is the Phoenix I bought her this week:
[img]<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_O ... site"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_r-MvN4jW1sE/S7VAM ... GP1291.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/terdalfarm/ ... bsite">New Palms Spring 2010</a></td></tr></table>[/img]
She wants it in the ground in a particular place, so it'll go there. In October, I may put it in a nice pot for the winter in hopes it can join her Washy as a life-long potted palm.
The pygmy date palm was on sale for US$15 as it was seriously root-bound and in desperate need of a re-potting. So, if I spend US$30 on a pretty pot next October, I'll call it a deal.
--Erik
are you married?
Nothing personal, but it might help understand the incomprehensible.
The best answer I can give is, "the W wants it planted, and she wants me to dig it up on October."
I have no idea why. I go through this routine every Spring and every Fall with a myriad of plants.
I have gotten away with one exception, for her Washy, by buying an expensive pot for it:
[img]<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vX ... site"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_r-MvN4jW1sE/S7VAj ... GP1282.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/terdalfarm/ ... ">ballroom plants 2010</a></td></tr></table>[/img]
Here is the Phoenix I bought her this week:
[img]<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_O ... site"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_r-MvN4jW1sE/S7VAM ... GP1291.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/terdalfarm/ ... bsite">New Palms Spring 2010</a></td></tr></table>[/img]
She wants it in the ground in a particular place, so it'll go there. In October, I may put it in a nice pot for the winter in hopes it can join her Washy as a life-long potted palm.
The pygmy date palm was on sale for US$15 as it was seriously root-bound and in desperate need of a re-potting. So, if I spend US$30 on a pretty pot next October, I'll call it a deal.
--Erik
Nothing personal Erik
I was.......... ONCE!
I get it.
I was.......... ONCE!
I get it.
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Yup, Jim's got a good idea...pot planting (pot and all).
Otherwise there's transplant shock every time...
Barrie, I tried to pull my CIDP's fronds up like your EPS colleague did.
Mine just seems less supple, maybe because his fronds seem so much longer.
This CIDP...can handle ALL the heat this desert area can throw at it...and wind.
A five-gallon bucket of water poured on it once a week in summer.
Seems happy as a clam.
Spends every winter in the cold building, with lots of light.
Erik, those are great looking specimens.
Nice $$ pot too...I'd still bury it.
Otherwise there's transplant shock every time...
Barrie, I tried to pull my CIDP's fronds up like your EPS colleague did.
Mine just seems less supple, maybe because his fronds seem so much longer.
This CIDP...can handle ALL the heat this desert area can throw at it...and wind.
A five-gallon bucket of water poured on it once a week in summer.
Seems happy as a clam.
Spends every winter in the cold building, with lots of light.
Erik, those are great looking specimens.
Nice $$ pot too...I'd still bury it.
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You can always sink that one in plastic and then bury it,that way you can lift it out of the plastic pot.
Have your wife dig the hole
Have your wife dig the hole
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