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sabals
I am growing four different kinds of sabals. All of them I germinated from seed between December 2003 and February 2005.
What I have found is that sabal mexicana is the fastest growing seedling.
Sabal palmetto seeds were geminated first back in 2003 and they are now just on their 8th frond. sabal minor and sabal minor northern texas seem to be growing at the same speed, very slowly but they are growing differently. Sabal minor n. texas has longer strap leaves that the regular sabal minor. S, mexicana has a bluer leaf and wider and stiffer than s. minor and is already on their third frond. All but the sabal palmetto were germinated at the same time, Feb 2005. All survived outside in an unheated greenhouse. Low temp this year was -4C or 25F.
I am hoping to find a faster growing sabal that can handle the PNW weather.
I have added a pole to see what others think about sabals and what is the favourite.
I know there is more varieties of sabals but these are thev more hardier ones.
What I have found is that sabal mexicana is the fastest growing seedling.
Sabal palmetto seeds were geminated first back in 2003 and they are now just on their 8th frond. sabal minor and sabal minor northern texas seem to be growing at the same speed, very slowly but they are growing differently. Sabal minor n. texas has longer strap leaves that the regular sabal minor. S, mexicana has a bluer leaf and wider and stiffer than s. minor and is already on their third frond. All but the sabal palmetto were germinated at the same time, Feb 2005. All survived outside in an unheated greenhouse. Low temp this year was -4C or 25F.
I am hoping to find a faster growing sabal that can handle the PNW weather.
I have added a pole to see what others think about sabals and what is the favourite.
I know there is more varieties of sabals but these are thev more hardier ones.
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pics of my largest sabal palmetto seedlings
First pic is the largest one that is now on it's 8th frond. I think it is going to be a mature one as it is splitting into a small fan.
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Sabals
I have quite a few different species of Sabals in my garden as well. Most I grew from seed that were collected from palms that have experienced very cold minimum temps. I have many Sabal minors my largest has the bluer type fronds and many flower spikes. I also have many regular green form. Lots of S.palmetto seedlings in the ground for a few years now and one I planted in 1993, but in a bad location. Sabal riverside, S.causarianum, S.texana, S.birmingham (many) and S.blackburiana. There is a very nice Sabal growing near town at Grace Point for 9 years now , but nobody seems to no the exact species. It has large fronds and opens three fronds per year. It has never as so much showed the slightest Winter damage. They are nice palms, but at this latitude they need a very sunny hot spot to grow. I also have quite a few smaller S.louisiana anotehr slower grower here. Joe
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Nice job on growing your sabals Wes
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Joe, do you happen to have any S.birmingham seed you would like to sell?
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Here's to all the global warming pushers, may your winters be -30 below and four feet of snow in your driveway. Because I want you happy.
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I had one germonate right away and then nothing until a month ago when I applied bottom heat. I now have another 16 that have germinated and are ready to be transplanted into pots.
Thanks again for the seeds.
If you are looking for trachy fortunei seeds I have lots.
Thanks again for the seeds.
If you are looking for trachy fortunei seeds I have lots.
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How do you put a pic by your name like the yucca you have?
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sabal palmetto
I just got my latest HPI and I just read the story about a home in West Vancouver that had a fairly large sabal palmetto that was fried back in Jan 2004. This was a good sized palm and it concerns me that sabal palmettos may not be hardy here in the PNW without some form of protection during our infrequent cold spells.
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Birmingham seed
Sorry Aaron, When I recieved a bag load of S.birmingham seed a few years back I grew it all. I haven't had any more of it since. I sold quite a few of the seedlings and planted a bunch in my garden. I got the seed from a guy in Georgia. Cheers, Joe
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Cold hardy Sabal seeds
Aaron you might have already seen this site for very cold hardy Sabal seeds and trees. I ordered some seeds from them a while back and was impressed with how fast they germinated . here is the links.www.amazinggardens.com
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